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It’s official: Mitt Romney is a fucking douche

I am all kinds of pissed-off about Das Speech. I was expecting Romney to say that he wouldn’t take orders from Salt Lake (and he did), but he also went out of his way to malign people of reason.

I’ll just comment on the greasiest morsels.

America faces a new generation of challenges. Radical violent Islam seeks to destroy us. An emerging China endeavors to surpass our economic leadership. And we’re troubled at home by government overspending, overuse of foreign oil, and the breakdown of the family.

Fear buttons activated. The audience is now primed to reject rational thought and swallow authoritarian dogma.

Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom.

Obstreperousness requires pomegranates just as pomegranates require obstreperousness.

Freedom opens the windows of the soul so that man can discover his most profound beliefs and commune with God. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone.

Tell that to people in secular countries. Japan. Norway. Most of Europe. You can use your freedom to commune with any beings your imagination can contrive, but don’t go saying religion is some kind of prerequisite.

We separate church and state affairs in this country, and for good reason. No religion should dictate to the state nor should the state interfere with the free practice of religion. But in recent years, the notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning. They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God. Religion is seen as merely a private affair with no place in public life. It’s as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America – the religion of secularism. They are wrong.

Us them, us them. I know Republicans like to hold up this imaginary scarecrow, but it’s so dishonest. If secularism were a religion, I’d be paying tithes. And it’d be a lot better organised.

Do you ever wonder how it is that Mitt knows the ‘original meaning’ of the Separation Clause so much better than the rest of us? Was it a result of personal revelation? Was Romney doing Jefferson’s proxy temple work, and have a visitation? It’s as if he was intent on establishing a new religion in America – the cult of revisionist channeling.

Yes, I do think religion is a private affair. I don’t think all this public god-posturing is a good use of airtime (and no small amount of money as well). I’d love to see less of it in public life. If, just for once, a candidate for office were to able to express an honest doubt about theism, I would fall over. I might also think that maybe rational thought in the public sphere were possible. But that will never happen in today’s America because religious folk have a stranglehold on the discourse. It’s not the secularists.

The founders proscribed the establishment of a state religion, but they did not countenance the elimination of religion from the public square. We are a nation “under God” and in God, we do indeed trust.

I think this just shows how insidious religious faith can be. All that God stuff is a relic of the Eisenhower years, and now it’s entrenched.

Nor would I separate us from our religious heritage. Perhaps the most important question to ask a person of faith who seeks a political office, is this: Does he share these American values – the equality of human kind, the obligation to serve one another and a steadfast commitment to liberty?

Which Romney has already explained is predicated on religious faith.

Listen: we’ve tried having a person of faith as president. He had so much faith that he could believe anything he wanted was true, without any evidence at all. It was a disaster. Why don’t we try a person of doubt? See how that works for a while.

If you’re a secularist, or if you’re not particularly religious, or even if you’re just suspicious of religious involvement in government, you now know exactly where you stand in Mitt Romney’s America: on the other side of the Wall of Separation.

Life from conception: How likely are they to be right?

Women of the world: think of yourself as a box. LGM has the video.

Are you surprised that Catholics might think of you as some kind of holy receptacle? Hope not.

This is an argument I’ve heard a few times: if there’s even a chance that life starts at conception (whatever that means), then we should err on the side of caution and prohibit abortion. My answer is: who are we taking care of here? A fetus that might be alive, or a real woman who is alive, and whose quality of life will be messed with by forced childbirth?

But there’s something else to add to the equation that I haven’t yet heard. My work in machine learning deals a lot with probabilities. I use computer algorithms to classify text, and I hope the computer sorts the text into the right bins. But I don’t just want to know what answer an algorithm gives me. I also want to know how likely that answer is to be right. It’s not enough to say what might somehow be possible. I want to know some likelihoods. So let’s add that into the mix: how likely are the various parties to be right?

The pro-choice side: Claims that women are alive. Pretty good evidence for this. Very likely to be correct.

The pro-life side: Claims that there’s a chance that a just-conceived fetus might be alive as a separate being, like you’re alive. I suppose there might be a small chance. But how often have religions been right before? Well, let’s just say they don’t have a great track record. They’ve gotten so many things wrong, including heliocentrism, evolution, the age of the earth, language, geography, astronomy, and more. And they get things wrong because of their methods. They start from beliefs, and ignore contradicting evidence. And it’s all true if you feel it’s true. Why should they be right this time, when their methods haven’t improved in thousands of years? So while it’s good to be cautious in uncertain conditions, we have to take into account the likelihood that our caution is justified in view of the expense to real live people.

This ‘just in case’ argument is convincing to some people because of the minimax principle. Because humans are usually risk averse, we try to avoid bad outcomes rather than go for good outcomes. This argument takes advantage of uncertainty, in the interest of a socio-political agenda. And so, as always, religions find and exploit our congitive blind spots.

You find cognac-swilling Goethe readers in the strangest places

I found a issue of The Improvement Era the other day. This was a magazine produced by the LDS Church — this one’s from 1966 — and it actually had ads. Can you imagine the Ensign today running ads?

This caught my eye — it’s on the first page. Check the tagline for this ad for ‘Great Books’.

Why the Godless hate these books
…and why the God-fearing find daily inspiration in them

We all know that Stalin in particular hated Volume 50: Marx. And atheists today can’t stand Volume 49: Darwin.

It’s the earliest example I’ve seen of the ‘Hitler and Stalin were atheists’ trope, still seen today, and refuted somewhat ably here.

That aside, it occurs to me how little things have changed in 50 years. Atheists are, and have always been, demonised by the god-fearing. But anti-book? What an odd accusation. It’s not the secular left that’s tried to burn and ban them.

What is a cult?

Maybe I’m a little careful about the word ‘cult’, since my church of origin copped a lot of the cult talk. To me, the practices and doctrines of my church were normal and not cultish. Yet my dear old normal church, with its gold bible and temple ceremonies, topped the list of cults in book after book. Christianity was a Jewish cult in the early days — and I don’t mean to be pejorative when I say that it remains sort of a death cult even today, its central image a tortured man nailed to a cross.

I’m still looking for a good definition of ‘cult’. Here are the most common I’m aware of:

1. A cult is a religion that is weird.
That is, it has beliefs or practices that lie outside the mainstream. But every religion is weird to someone. This very afternoon, Youngest Boy and I saw a rather large number of Evangelical Christians singing loud songs in the city. Hands raised, and so on. Substitute “Hare Hare” etc, and it wouldn’t have sounded any different. Yet the Hare Krishnas are a cult and the Christians aren’t? for no one denounces cults like those Christians.

2. A cult is a religion that uses coercive, manipulative, or deceptive tactics to retain its membership.
Cults tend to isolate their members, get them dependent on the approval of the group, and restrict their access to family. But every religion has its bag of tricks: tell people if they don’t do what god wants, they’ll go to hell or otherwise be ineligible for heaven; use communal reinforcement to keep people tied into the values of the group; start them when they’re young and dependent. And in extreme cases, threaten apostates with ostracism.

3. A cult is a religion that focuses on adoration of an individual.
Like Jesus? Next.

4. A cult is a religion that hasn’t become well-established yet.
Getting closer. If Catholicism had a hundred followers, its followers would seem darned peculiar. Population and history have a way of lending legitimacy. But Hinduism and Buddhism, with their many millions, were considered cults when they arrived in the West.

5. A cult is a religion that we don’t like.
That’s about as close as we’re going to come.

I’ve never seen a definition for a cult that doesn’t also implicate all other religions. My religion is a religion; yours is a cult.

I’m aliiive

Sorry to abandon the site — I’ve been beset by the worst influenza strain I’ve seen since the winter of ’83. Doing better now though. I’ve tried to make it up to you by including a poll in the right sidebar.

And then this week, my mailbox coughed up a bookmark.

Dear Neighbour

This year, the members of St Luke’s Anglican Church in Maylands are praying for the welfare of our neighbourhood. This week, we have chosen the people in your street.

Please contact us with any special needs you may have.

The St Luke’s Community

Dammit, people! Cut it out! My life has sucked since you started praying for me! Don’t you know that prayer can actually increase post-operative complications? Are you trying to give me secondary pneumonia?

It’s very sweet that you’re offering to help with my ‘special needs’ (ahem), but I’m already using the Magical Wishing Ferret plus the Secret, so really I’m doing fine. Also a very kind GP is taking care of me, and I have evidence that she actually exists, kthxbai.

Men on a mission… to thrill!

This calendar is all kinds of awesome, even though it makes me feel all funny and confused. Beefcake photos of returned LDS missionaries.


I only work out on P-day, President, honest.

Everyone seems to love juxtaposing the straight arrow image of LDS missionaries against their complete hottness. Everyone except Latter-day Saints; either they know better (many of my mission companions were intolerable; few were hott) or they place missionaries in the no-sex zone occupied (in theory) by Catholic priests.

Not that Mormonism doesn’t blur sex and spirit. Christianity is a patriarchal religion; it has a father-god, and it centers on love for Jesus. And with all that man-love going on, we shouldn’t be surprised if we find some sublimated (homo)eroticism in there somewhere.

Or not so sublimated. Here’s one t-shirt design that was popular a few years back:

And remember these? 1|2|3

But if you think this project will make people uncomfortable, imagine if a calendar came out with cheesecake photos of returned sister missionaries. What would happen? Would it go under the radar because sister missionaries are somehow less iconic to the church’s image? Or would it raise more of a fuss because they’re women?

Dawkins v God

I’ve just returned from a discussion held by the UWA Christian Union on ‘Dawkins v God’. It was enjoyable, and I thought the speaker’s characterisation of Dawkins was pretty fair. The usual old canards came out though. Dawkins is a fundamentalist. Hitler and Stalin were atheists, so atheism kills people. Science and religion don’t necessarily conflict (but then why the hell do they always reach opposite conclusions?). And as a bonus, Dawkins was wrong because the speaker didn’t like his vision of morality. Pretty thin stuff.

There was one special area where the speaker had some real trouble: Is god empirical or not? During the presentation, the speaker made two contradictory claims:

  • God can’t be examined empirically because… well… he doesn’t want to be, for some reason. Sort of like UFOs, he only comes out when no one’s around.
  • Despite the inability to examine god empirically, the empirical evidence for god’s existence is very strong.

So which is it? In fact, this argument lets the believer have it both ways; you can grab onto evidence that looks promising, but you’re covered when there’s none.

The empirical evidence for god is not strong. Prayer studies come up consistently empty, evolution is a better explanation than creation, and anecdotes about finding keys just aren’t empirical data. The speaker was leaning pretty heavily on the ‘historicity of the New Testament’, but even if the writers did write it just as it appears (which is what Mark Twain would have called a ‘stretcher’), it just means they wrote it, and not that it’s true.

My question, which never really got answered, was this: If you can’t use empiricism or science to study god, what are you going to use? How are you going to make sure that your evidence for god isn’t just whatever you want to see?

The doubts of Mother Teresa

Book Of Iconic Nun’s Letters Shows She Was Tormented By Her Doubts In Her Faith

In a new book that compiles letters she wrote to friends, superiors and confessors, her doubts are obvious.

Shortly after beginning work in Calcutta’s slums, the spirit left Mother Teresa.

“Where is my faith?” she wrote. “Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness… If there be God — please forgive me.”

Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.

“Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal,” she said.

As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.

“What do I labor for?” she asked in one letter. “If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.”

I really feel for Mother Teresa when I read these writings. I no longer expect certainty, but I come from a religion where they constantly tell each other how certain they are that the doctrines are true. And this kind of certainty is difficult to maintain in the absence of good evidence. The wolves of doubt are always at the believer’s door, and it seems to me that they tend to measure their faith by how well they circumnavigate doubt, or (in more sophisticated thinkers) how well they’re able to modulate and accept the doubts they entertain.

This is something that religious believers (with a brain) will be grappling with for the whole of their lives. The sad thing about this conflict is how unnecessary it is. All it takes to resolve it is to drop one faulty premise — gods’ existence. Once that’s done, everything makes sense and understanding becomes possible. The Dostoyevskian problem of evil evaporates. The need to reconcile spiritual ideas with conflicting physical evidence vanishes. The struggle to keep up unbelievable ideas in the absence of solid evidence disappears. The exhausting need to sustain faith is over, and it becomes possible — at last! — to think rationally.

Of course, MT was heavily invested in her religion, and it would have been very difficult for her to drop it all. But she (and anyone else) could have done so. And then what? Well, she wouldn’t have been a candidate for sainthood, that’s for sure. But the acts of service she did (pace Hitchens) could still have been performed by an atheist humanist ex-nun. Or by you or I.

I expect this article to be of interest to some believers. Perhaps many will say, “Well, if someone like Mother Teresa had doubts about God’s existence, maybe it’s nothing to worry about when I have doubts myself.” But perhaps they should be asking this: Why do we knock ourselves out trying to keep believing in this pre-conceived notion of god’s existence when the evidence doesn’t support it, and when other good explanations are so easy to come by?

UPDATE: Was I right? Now the Pope has weighed in.

“All believers know about the silence of God,” he said in unprepared remarks. “Even Mother Teresa, with all her charity and force of faith, suffered from the silence of God,” he said.

He said believers sometimes had to withstand the silence of God in order to understand the situation of people who do not believe.

I suppose he’d take that reading instead of the reading I gave it: People who claim to believe in god are secretly faking.

I’m sorry, that’s rude. But no ruder than the many Christians who have told me “Everyone secretly believes, even if they don’t think they do.” I’d say the reverse is more accurate: no one really believes, even if they think they do.

Mother Teresa was a believer, so just about any evidence would have done. But it says something that with all her desire to believe, she couldn’t find enough of the kind of evidence that even she would find satisfactory. It’s to her credit that she recognised the silence, and to her shame that she wanted the letters destroyed.

The silence of god? How long does it take to realise that there’s nobody on the other end of that phone?

Deconversion stories: The void and the ramen

“If a man die, shall he live again?”

Words from Job. I mused them aloud at my father’s graveside one morning. Immediately my sister said, “Yes.” Let’s just say I was less certain. Faith was coming apart for lack of evidence, and I didn’t like it.

I always liked the Book of Job. The first part of the Old Testament makes some great promises: even if you get thrown in fiery furnaces or… um… get your hair cut off, you’ll be fine as long as you believe in god. And then when good people did believe in god and they burned up in the furnace anyway (along with their hair), then people had to write the Book of Job. You can almost hear the writers saying ‘Gee, it’s weird… believing in god doesn’t always stop bad things happening to you. It’s like the correlation between input and outcome seems almost… random.”

No shit.

The tacked-on ending was the most disappointing part. The book that tells us that good people don’t always get the goodies, ends up with Job… getting the goodies. Hope his family didn’t mind being replaced.

Dad’s death triggered a rather predictable resurgence of faith in me. I even gave a great faith-promoting eulogy. But the spiritual rush didn’t last long without evidence — I had come too far by this time — and so I found myself that morning at my father’s final resting place, coming down off of it.

Later one day, I pondered what it would be like to be dead. Not just a disembodied spirit, still aware of things and observing, but dead. Not existing. And not experiencing not existing because there’s no one there to experience it. Just not. Extinct. Mentally I recoiled from imagining it; religion was what I used to protect myself from this sensation. But I decided to press on and try to imagine non-existence. I imagined blackness, but blackness was an experience. I pushed beyond the blackness and finally… for just a few quiet seconds… imagined the void.

It was terrifying. Nothingness was waiting, everything would go on without me, and there was nothing I could do about it.

The experience didn’t prove anything, obviously. But just being able to imagine non-existence snapped me out of fairyland. Spiritual questions took on a new urgency. I no longer wanted to be fooled by comforting stories; the stories needed to be true if I was going to believe them. And if they weren’t true, I wanted to know it. What about Dad? He remained in the Church all his life, and never had any doubts, said he was absolutely certain. Had he wasted his life in something that wasn’t true? Of course he hadn’t ‘wasted his life’; he took good care of his family, and he was happy in his religion. But maybe knowing what’s true was more important than being happy.

Believers sometimes say, “You atheists must think life is pointless. If you die and that’s the end, what’s the point of it all?” But, post-void, I found myself valuing life a lot more because it was finite, and therefore precious. Except now I had to make life meaningful by myself. Life was cheap as a believer; it would go on forever, and in a much better place, so there was no need to make each day count here. And remember that dreary hymn that referred to this life as a “vail of tears”? Religion taught me that this life was a bad place, or at best inconsequential, just practice, getting ready to live in the better world to come. If you could just get through it ‘unspotted by the world’, that is. This kind of thinking makes people devalue life. People got killed in a war? That’s sad, but they’re still alive really. So no need to do anything about it. You’re not happy in your marriage? Maybe you just need to sacrifice your earthly happiness and grind through it, knowing you’ll be rewarded in the Celestial Kingdom after you die. And so on. Horrible, repellent thoughts to me now, but as a believer it made sense. What a waste. As an atheist, my life has meaning now. The only people I hear who say life on earth isn’t really all that meaningful are Christians.

And so I finally did something that, as a Christian, I could never do: I came to grips with the finality of death and the probable reality of non-existance. One day my brain, that organ of perception, will die, and my perception will stop. I will pass out of living memory. I don’t like that very much. But it’s okay. I’ve had more life than most people in history ever got. And I’m alive today.

The realisation hasn’t changed me much really, yet it has. Once I made an ordinary bowl of ramen. As I opened the little packets of flavour that they include to make you feel like you’re doing something, I thought on how one day I wouldn’t be able to have the experience of tasting ramen. I thought of generations of people who had died and were probably experiencing nothing at all. And then I experienced the flavour of the ramen, and then the sensation of feeling satisfied. All those deceased people couldn’t feel that. My father couldn’t. But I could because I was still alive. I tasted that ramen like I’d never taste anything ever again.

A bowl of ramen. Twenty cents. With the right understanding, even a simple thing can become transcendant.

Calling god ‘Allah’

The danger of being an atheist blogger writing about Islam is that someone will mistake you for a far-right blogger, like some hyper-aggressive LGF jerk with a berserk preputial gland. So, in advance, let me explain that I’m equally against all religions, and that any anti-Islam rantings of mine are not intended to advance the Glorious Conservative Cause of the Bush Dynasty for World Domination, nor as a thin mask for any xenophobic sentiment. For the record.

I have to get that out of the way, because the Keyboard Konservatives are all over this story:

A Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding, stoking an already heated debate on religious tolerance in a country with one million Muslims.

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn’t we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? … What does God care what we call him? It is our problem.”

From the comments around the web (e.g.), it would appear that people do care what to call their favourite sky buddy. Never mind that this hits people’s always-touchy language buttons. It would be like calling your best friend some new name. I have a friend who changed his name his first year of uni, twenty years ago. (Hello, O’Neil!) But I still want to call him Steve. You could see how people would worry that their prayers would get misdirected, even to an omniscient being.

Naturally, for an atheist, what to call an imaginary being is rather a moot question. Theists have believed in many gods in human history. Here is a most impressive list of gods, all once believed in by many people, most now extinct. Time to add more to the list of Gods past. Let’s just call him (or her) nothing at all.

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