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Deconversion stories: The investment trap

One of the factors that keeps people in a belief system is the amount of investment that goes into it. No one likes to think that they’ve wasted their time or done something wrong.

Call it an artifact of the sunk-cost fallacy. The more effort you’ve invested in a thing, the harder it is to look objectively at it. And abandoning the thing becomes unthinkable. If you can just hang in there a little longer and invest a little more, perhaps you’ll get the payoff! And if you stop now, you’ll lose all you’ve worked for.

You may recall the story of a Parisian couple who wanted to buy an condominium. They found a property owned by an elderly woman, and (as is customary) they paid her a bit every month for the right to buy the property upon her death. It looked like a good deal. She was ninety years old. What were the odds of her living to 100? But she did.

Time passed. She lived on to the astonishing age of 110. She sent Christmas cards to the couple, adding her apologies for still being alive. The elderly woman, Jeanne Calment, became the oldest living person at 122 years of age, even surviving the husband. The couple paid many times the value of the property. Talk about rotten luck!

When I first heard this story, I wondered how the couple could have gone on so long in such a rotten deal. They must have wondered whether they should pull out and abandon their investment. But the sunk-cost fallacy helps us undertand why they didn’t: the longer they went, the less likely they’d be to pull the plug. Imagine their thinking when Ms. Calment turned 100: Why get out now? She’s a hundred years old! If she’d been likely to die soon ten years ago, surely it would be even sooner now! And then at 110: Well, I’m certainly not getting out now, after paying for twenty years! And every day holds out the tantalising possibility that your investment will be rewarded.

Joseph Smith once said

A religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation.

What he described is simple to understand if we consider the effect of investment in belief systems. High-commitment belief systems attract low numbers of converts because, honestly, most people don’t want to do all that stuff. But the ones who do join will be fiercely loyal, in large part (I think) to the sunk-cost fallacy. Many religious people feel their investment in faith is worth it, and I have no doubt that to them it is. But being invested in a point of view is a sure way to prevent yourself from being able to examine it clearly. And the greater the investment, the harder it is to re-evaluate the belief.

For my part, my deconversion required me to invest less in the Church emotionally. I identified strongly as a Mormon. It was part of who I was. But recently, whereas I’d always thought that allegiance to the Church was an ultimate good of itself (‘Faith of our fathers, holy faith, we will be true to thee till death’, as the hymn goes), I began to realise that I wanted my highest allegiance to be with truth. Not that I thought there was a difference between the two. I’d always easily glossed over conflicts between doctrine and facts, partly because I could think of clever ways of harmonising them, and partly because my investment in the Church allowed me to stop thinking about them a bit sooner than I should have. Blackout.

At some point, these conflicts became more troubling because I was torn between being faithful and being honest. The one idea that was most influential during this time was this: I don’t have to be afraid of knowledge because if there is a God, he doesn’t want me to believe anything that’s wrong. That phrase seemed true enough to work with. Ironically, it was this idea that allowed me to feel safe enough to notice the glaring flaws of LDS and Christian doctrine, and finally to reject theism altogether.

Now the tricky bit: not becoming attached to atheism! I realise I still need to stay open to new facts. But my understanding of science has given me better tools to evaluate them.

Bush approval down among Mayan priests

I view religious ceremonies as purely symbolic, but even so, I’d still say that this one is perhaps intrinsically worthwhile:

Priests to purify site after Bush visit

GUATEMALA CITY – Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate “bad spirits” after President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday.

“That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture,” Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

If only it were that simple — alas, in the USA, the priest class is part of the problem. What’s it going to take to fumigate the USA after FratBoy leaves office?

Of faggotry and Coultery

It seems Ann Coulter is stuck in attack mode, which is very GOP. Straight from the Republican Handbook ‘Rules of Engagement’:

1. Attack and attack again.
2. Never admit wrongdoing.

Which didn’t work so well for Bush in Afghanistan and Iraq, and it’s not working very well for Ann. Here’s her rather unconvincing and juvenile Humpty Dumpty impersonation:

“‘Faggot’ isn’t offensive to gays; it has nothing to do with gays,” Coulter said on “Hannity and Colmes” Monday night. “It’s a schoolyard taunt meaning ‘wuss,’ and unless you’re telling me that John Edwards is gay, it was not applied to a gay person.”

So by taking umbrage at being called a ‘faggot’, John Edwards is admitting he’s gay! I only meant he was a wuss! Have you told your mother you’re gay, yes or no? Stop hitting yourself!

In fact, ‘faggot’ is offensive to gays. This author’s view is somewhat representative.

“Faggot,” is the “N”-Word to Gay People. It hurts as much. It is as discriminatory. It is as disparaging.

An aside: If you go on to read the article, please ignore the author’s etymology involving burning people. That’s a common misconception. In fact, our current usage of ‘faggot’ probably derives from its application to old women, perhaps because of their stick-bundle-carrying tendencies. One source from 1862 shows “She..struck at me, she did, the good-for-nothing faggot!” And then the female term was applied to homosexual men. This is a common pattern; words like ‘gay’ and ‘fairy’ have a similar history.

The Republican presidential nominees have condemned Coulter’s usage, but she’s unrepentant.

“Apparently our top three Republican nominees aren’t that smart,” Coulter said. “And by the way, if they’re going to start apologizing for everything I say, they better keep that statement handy cause there’s going to be a lot more in the next year.”

Oh, goody.

Friday Random Five goes it alone.

So much good music out there! Next time you hear someone complaining that “there’s no good music anymore”, feel free to tip over their walker for me. And what’s playing now, you ask? Usually these days it’s…

Señor Coconut! The nom de guerre of Uwe Schmidt of Atom Heart. Since his move to Chile, he’s merged his love of electronica and Latin band music by releasing ‘El Baile Aleman’, a Latin-themed collection of (get this) Kraftwerk covers. I listen more to the second album, ‘Yellow Fever!’, Latin reworkings of songs by pioneering Japanese techno band Yellow Magic Orchestra. Part parody, part homage, all very listenable and well-done. Will they take away my membership in the Techno Club if I say that they sound better than the originals? if only because YMO’s production sounds a bit too 80s at times. But Señor Coconut is brilliant. He even throws in a little drill and bass when he thinks he can get away with it, and that’s when you’re getting the real Uwe.

But random songs are enjoyable as well.

Archangels by The Wild Swans
Album: Bringing Home the Ashes
I think this may be one of the rarest albums I have. I bought this first Wild Swans album in 1989 when it first came out. I liked the way it combined the boyish October sounds of the Icicle Works and The Ocean Blue, while bringing its own fresh British sensibility. The time of day is early morning, it’s cold, and you’re zipping past rows of trees on a motorcycle. Soon the Wild Swans would release their psychedelic-tinged second album Space Flower and lose all their fans, but this album is seriously worth tracking down.

Wish Coin (Go It Alone) [Diplo Remix] by Beck
Album: Guerolito
I’m not sure how it worked out, but Diplo has managed to work the nervous ska of the English Beat’s Twist and Crawl into Beck’s ‘Go It Alone’. About time someone gave the Beat some props. And it works with the song. Why didn’t Beck think of doing this himself? I guess he can’t think of everything, and he did write ‘Satan Gave Me a Taco’ after all.

One Minute More by Chris & Cosey
Album: Skimble Skamble
Not everyone likes this Chris and Cosey era, but I’m not sure why. Cosey Fanni Tutti’s vocals are, as always, cold, emotionless, and ever so slightly off-key. The sequencing is, as always, smooth and detailed. Could it be that Chris and Cosey didn’t have many ideas by this point? Or is it just that thing where everyone gets tired of a band’s new material even though they’re still brilliant? No, it can’t be that. Chris and Cosey were never the most brilliant band. But they were awfully good at weaving together weird and dangerous mood pieces, and this is just trancy enough to do the job.

Everything You Do is a Balloon by Boards of Canada
Album: Boc Maxima
BoC is the best and most memorable band to come out of the IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) genre. To their repetitive drumbeats and damaged layers of sound, they’ve added a fine sense of musical structure. This rather long song comes from their early period, and the structure is tryptich. First, spangly notes hang in the sky, falling, like something a baby might grasp at before falling asleep. Then a heavier-than-usual drumbeat (their signature boom-boom-bop) rolls along with deep slow-moving chords, while a single querulous horn lends the song its hook. The third part of the song sounds like nothing more than Tibetan drums and frogs (though the ‘Hi Scores’ EP version omits this last part). A fascinating piece that I never tire of.

Tantos Desajos by Suba
Album: Serve Chilled 2
In the battle of Spanish v. Portuguese, give me Spanish. Why? Sensible orthography and sheer comprehensibility. If that’s important, why do I speak English then? Huh? How come? Hey, no dissing English, you malcontent. If that’s the way you’re going to be, why don’t you just listen to this song, which has Portuguese in it. And I must say, the liquid phonology of that language does sound nice coming from this singer, whoever she may be. I was going to categorise this as Latin Chill House, but genres can’t be three words long unless there’s a hyphen.

Open Thread for family members re: Daniel’s atheism

Since I’ve already come out as an atheist to my family members, you wouldn’t think the contents of Good Reason would be much of a surprise to them. However, at least one has reacted with dismay as the extent of my rejection of theism has become apparent.

So this is an open thread where family members who have recently found the blog can chat, discuss, fulminate, or cajole. Other readers are also invited to share their experiences (from either side) of family and faith or non-faith.

I’ll start.

When people identify closely with a religion that emphasises family, the rejection of the shared values of the religion seems to entail a rejection of family. Allow me to assure you that this is not the case. I love you guys, and I’m grateful to have the family I do. My decision to follow the evidence instead of feelings has not been an easy one. However, as I’ve come to understand the frailty of human perception and the workings of reason, I’m convinced that the evidence as we have it points overwhelmingly to a lack of gods. I’m aware that this view has caused some pain to my Mormon family members, who view religion as the way to return to God and live together as a family forever. But I’m confident in saying that, on the pain scale, no one has been more affected than myself, as I have abandoned a belief system that I had faithfully followed and invested heavily in all my life. At the same time, being an ethical atheist is a noble thing, and part of a long and honourable tradition. I can explain things I couldn’t before. The candle of reason is small, but it shines brightly, and illuminates warmly.

Feel free to share your thoughts and feelings by clicking on the ‘number of comments’ link.

Swearing class observations

The swearing class has wrapped. I have to say, it was a lot of fun to teach. Part linguistic dissection, and part rowdy storytelling.

The students made a lot of interesting observations. One student, a mother, related her children’s reaction when she told a salacious joke over dinner. From anyone else, the kids would have enjoyed it, but from Mom it was an absolute clanger. It made me reflect on the social aspect of language. To other people, we seem to be these bundles of expectations. When we step outside the expectations of others, social incongruity is sure to follow.

Most of the words we consider ‘dirty’ were once matter-of-fact terms, with no inherently obscene connotations. These words wouldn’t become taboo until the Puritan crackdown of the 1600s. Insults are an exception. One gentleman researched the epithet ‘raghead’, and found that it dated from British involvement in India, recently dusted off and used for Muslims. In many ways, the class was a chance to see the sad history of how we torment each other with our words.

Even more sobering for me was a discussion of how blasphemy was punished in Colonial America.

2. If any pson wthin ye Province professing ye true God shall wittingly and willingly presume to blaspheme the wholly name of God, Father, Son or Holy Ghost, wth direct, express, presumptions or high-handed blasphemy, either by willful or obstinate denying ye true God or his creation or Governmt of ye world, or shall curse God, Father, Son, or Holy Ghost, such pson shall be put to death. Levit. 24: 15 and 16.

Now imagine that. A capital offense, and you didn’t even have to swear. All you had to do was, in essence, be an atheist.

I hope this is enough to disperse the lie that America was established as a land of religious liberty. America was established by Puritans, a bunch of religious froot-loopers so fanatical that no one else could stand them. They happily bored awls through people’s tongues, branded their foreheads with a B, and killed them for using certain God-words outside of a religious context. How many people were tortured and killed for their words and opinions in order to assuage the Biblical god?

America wouldn’t become a land of religious liberty until a bunch of free-thinkers, deists, agnostics, and atheists established the Constitution and dragged the nation out of the muck of Puritanism.

Finally, to my Christian readers: when you hear people arguing that America is a Christian nation (as they seem to), ask yourself if this is the kind of Christianity you want. There are many types, and you may not get to select your favourite flavour. In view of the punishments mentoned above, the wall of separation between church and state starts to look better and better.

People of faith

Part one:

A Pakistani minister and woman’s activist has been shot dead by an Islamic extremist for refusing to wear the veil.

Zilla Huma Usman, the minister for social welfare in Punjab province and an ally of President Pervez Musharraf, was killed as she was about to deliver a speech to dozens of party activists, by a “fanatic”, who believed that she was dressed inappropriately and that women should not be involved in politics, officials said.

The gunman, Mohammad Sarwar, was overpowered by the minister’s driver and arrested by police. A stone mason in his mid 40s, he is not thought to belong to any radical group but is known for his fanaticism. He was previously held in 2002 in connection with the killing and mutilation of four prostitutes, but was never convicted due to lack of evidence.

Mr Sarwar appeared relaxed and calm when he told a television channel that he had carried out God’s order to kill women who sinned. “I have no regrets. I just obeyed Allah’s commandment,” he said, adding that Islam did not allow women to hold positions of leadership. “I will kill all those women who do not follow the right path, if I am freed again,” he said.

Part two:

We need to have a person of faith lead the country.

Mitt Romney, 17 February 2007

Was there ever a man of more unshakable faith, of greater moral certainty than Mohammad Sarwar?

Would you vote for an atheist?

Dead last. This must not stand.


Muslims aren’t listed because they actually went into negative territory. Which actually can happen; someone says ‘no’ with such vehemence that it negates other people’s ‘yes’ votes and then some. Happened in Ohio, too.

But how come there’s no category: alcoholic with a criminal record? What would they score? Obviously between 49-51 percent.

A few reasons, perhaps. Atheists have been the Scary Monsters of the American political scene for fifty years. Everyone can dump on them with impunity. And why not? No one knows any atheists. Or if you do, they just tell you that your beliefs are made up, and who likes that? They have no morals, except for the ones they catch by osmosis from Christians. Plus they’re angry. Angry! Grrrrrr.

Wow, I’d scarcely vote for myself! Too scary!

UPDATE: I realised that ‘alcoholic with a criminal record’ doesn’t really cover Bush because the question said ‘generally well-qualified’. My bad.

You think your job sucks.

Just be glad you’re not a Republican running for U.S. President.

First of all, you’re horrendously unpopular, with self-reported Republican identification the lowest in years. Then you have to Defend the Indefensible and argue for escalation of the war in Iraq/Iran/Syria. I mean, maybe you’re a sensible person and maybe you can even count, and you’d like to take some positions that Americans actually agree with, so already you’re a little edgy.

Then you have to take a position like this:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, looking to improve his standing with the party’s conservative voters, said Sunday the court decision that legalized abortion should be overturned.

“I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned,” the Arizona senator told about 800 people in South Carolina, one of the early voting states.

Suicide! I seem to remember that Roe vs. Wade is immmensely popular, and has been for, oh, about 30 years.

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Jan. 19-21, 2007. N=1,008 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

“Would you like to see the Supreme Court overturn its 1973 Roe versus Wade decision concerning abortion, or not?”

Would: 29
Would Not: 62
Unsure: 9

Yes, that’s about right. So why run against that? Oh.

McCain is trying to build support among conservatives after a recent rebuke from Christian leader James Dobson, who said he wouldn’t back McCain’s presidential bid.

Tsk.

So after kissing Dobson’s shiny white ass, followed by Robertson’s, Swaggart’s, and probably Haggard’s (but that one’s on your own time), you’re still not done. You have to cap off the evening by doing something really Christian, like attending a purity ball, or…

McCain later attended an evening rally promoting an abstinence program.

Yeah, something like that.

He told the crowd of more than 1,000 teens and parents that young people have pressures far different from the ones he faced while growing up. “Sometimes I’ve made the wrong choice,” McCain said.

So, that’s a ‘no’ on abstinence? I think I need a less ambiguous comment on that.

I wonder what it must be like for the Republican candidates. To ignore the vast majority of Americans so you can court the vote of the most freaked-out minority just seems nuts. It would drive me crazy. But then, I’m not masochistic enough to be a Republican.

And another thing: Whose (the fuck) business is it anyway that you took a tumble in the hay with Mary Lou in 1955? Imagine having to flagellate yourself publicly over it at an abstinence rally in 2007. Unbelievable!

Here’s me at the rally: Kids, we got it on! And it was great! I don’t regret it for a second! We were young and gorgeous, and our skin was soft yet firm. I’ll never boink an eighteen-year-old woman again, and it’s one of my choicest memories.

No wonder they don’t vote for atheists. Mom and Dad and Grandma wouldn’t have liked that part of my speech.

Impeachment for Bush and Cheney

Most of the impeachment talk that was swirling around last November after the elections has died down, sadly. There was quite a bit of hand-wringing from liberals. ‘But is impeachment the right thing to do?’ they would ask.

Well, if the president has committed a crime, which wiretapping is (but that’s just one example), and if he’s admitted to committing these crimes, which he has, then yes, charging him with a crime is the right thing to do and not a partisan thing at all. The only reasons not to impeach the president is that you lack the gumption to stick it to Bush/Cheney (sadly true for most of the Democrats in Congress), or you are sufficiently not committed to the rule of law (sadly true for most of the Republicans), or you are trying to see if that’s the best way to ‘play it’. Which is so cynical I can hardly believe it.

Lots of people have argued against impeachment, among them Kos. The argument is that Democrats can try for an unsuccessful impeachment bid, or Democrats can show American voters that they can run the country in preparation for 2008. Hey, why not both?

So I’m quite pleased to see that my home state of Washington is starting (and I see that New Mexico has already passed) an impeachment resolution of its own.

Washington State is one of several states racing to see which will be first to send the U.S. House of Representatives a petition to impeach Bush and Cheney.

State Senator Eric Oemig, on February 14, 2007, introduced a resolution (PDF) calling on the Washington State Legislature to petition the U.S. House. Please thank him: oemig.eric@leg.wa.gov

Having this come at the state level is great: it costs Congressional Democrats nothing, and keeps the heat on Bush/Cheney. With these psychos, anything that can keep them off-balance and not invading Iran is good.

This is the way the right wing has done it for years. People like Limbaugh and Coulter say outrageous things, and listeners say, “Oh, that’s far too extreme,” and maybe the blowhards even cop some heat for saying it (but more likely they make money). But in the process, they push the dialogue over to the right. Then ‘moderate (by comparison)’ Republicans get to split the difference:

Interviewer: Right-wing Pundit, do you agree with these statements that liberals should be killed?
Right-wing Pundit: No, I’m advocating the rather more sensible step of imprisonment for treason.

And this is how American discourse has gotten to this sorry state. So I’m happy to see some pushback toward the left at the state level. Hey, aren’t conservatives the ones who are so big on states’ rights? Here it is in action.

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