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‘Prick’ is no longer offensive

It’s official.

Australian court clears student on offensive language charge

An Australian student who called a police officer a “prick” has been cleared of verbal abuse charges after a judge ruled that the word was in “common usage” and therefore not offensive.

Henry Grech insulted the senior constable during an argument at a Sydney railway station last year but the offensive language case against him fell apart after the magistrate said the word was in common use.

“I consider the word prick is of a less derogatory nature than other words and it is in common usage in this country,” Robbie Williams, the Waverley Local Court magistrate, told the court on Monday.

It’s not very nice to call a police officer a prick, but if we had a few more test cases like these, it could be useful to linguists in finding out what’s considered offensive and what’s not. What a judge finds offensive may not reflect public opinion perfectly, but it does have the seal of officialdom.

Michael R. Ash commits if-abuse

Religious apologists are fond of using the trappings of science. Maybe it’s because science poses the greatest challenge to their claims (so they’d better sound like they know about it), and maybe it’s because they’re trying to borrow science’s credibility.

But it’s not easy to see exactly how the efforts of apologists and true believers are different from real science. I think I’ve worked it out. And since it’s a shame to leave it buried in the comment section of the Undying Thread, I’m pulling it up here into the light.

Here’s how it works according to science. It takes evidence to establish a claim. The more extraordinary the claim, the more evidence it takes. Without that evidence, the claim is rejected. The starting point is an assumption that the claim is not true. Basic stuff.

For example, I do not believe that there was ever a significant population of Hebrew or (reformed) Egyptian speakers in North or South America during alleged Book of Mormon times because there’s no evidence for it. No fragments of Hebrew script, no Egyptian loan words in existing languages. But future discoveries could overturn my disbelief.

Apologists and true believers do it the opposite way. The religious belief is assumed to be true without adequate evidence. Religious claims are accepted as long as they’re not specifically refuted by enough evidence. And the more deeply held the claim, the more evidence it takes to disabuse them of it.

Of course, it’s impossible to amass enough evidence to convince a true believer. For one thing, you can’t prove a negative. For another, many of their claims are not even falsifiable. And evidence can be ambiguous, so it will never disconfirm their view 100 percent. Which means that you can bring alternate explanations and evidence that refutes their view all day long, and they’ll just cling to the sliver of probability that remains, saying “I could still be right.” That sliver of hope is all they need.

So this is the tack that Mormon apologists have to take. They must know that there’s no evidence to establish their view, but as long as they can muddy the waters enough to create a sliver of possibility — redefining words, finding loopholes, and creating fanciful hypothetical scenarios — the faithful are satisfied and don’t notice that there’s not enough evidence to establish their claims.

We, as scientists and critical thinkers, do ourselves a disservice when we play the game their way. Trying to argue them down to zero probability is impossible, but that’s not our job. The burden of evidence is on them to establish their claims.

With that very long intro, let’s take a look at Michael R. Ash’s latest. This one’s about the word ‘Lamanite’. He’s already admitted that you can’t find DNA from Lamanites in current Native American populations, but the lack of evidence isn’t going to stop him from believing in them. He argues that their DNA was ‘subsumed‘ into a larger population — a wildly improbable event.

Ash details the problem:

If we theorize that the Lehites in the Book of Mormon were a small incursion into a larger existing New World population, and that their DNA was swamped out by the dominant and competing haplogroups,

Remind me: why were we theorising that? Because it’s well-supported by evidence? No, because it allows the religious theory to maintain a sliver of probablity. Carry on.

…some members may wonder who — of the surviving modern populations — are the “Lamanites”? In the Doctrine and Covenants, for example, the early Saints are directed to go preach to the Lamanites. How could the Native Americans in Joseph’s world be Lamanites?

It’s worse than that. If you can’t find any genetic Lamanites, how is the Book of Mormon going to come forth unto them? How are they going to ‘blossom as the rose‘? The redemption story falls apart.

Ash’s answer: Redefine the word ‘Lamanite’ away from genetics and toward culture.

The answer is found in culture and genealogy.

While culture is learned and typically passes from parents to children, people can change cultures or assimilate into different cultures. Thus we have Americans who are culturally American, although they (or their ancestors) might have come from Africa, Europe, Asia, or many other parts of the world. Terms such as “African,” “Asian,” “Jew,” “LDS,” “Indian,” and so forth are social constructs, not biological or genetic classifications.

Shorter: Cultural terms are just constructs, so it’s okay to refer to people by a term that was completely made up by some guy.

Finally, we have genealogy, or one’s ancestry. Everyone has two parents, and each parent has two parents. If you go back two generations (to your grandparents) you have four ancestral slots filled by two grandfathers and two grandmothers. As we go further back in our genealogy the number of ancestral slots increases geometrically.

Fail. He means ‘exponentially‘.

Update: No, I fail. See comments.

These slots don’t represent the actual number of ancestors, however, because intermarriage among relatives will cause some ancestors to fill multiple ancestral slots.

No, silly, it’s because parents can have more than one child. So each person on earth doesn’t require two unique parents; lots of people will have the same parents. Minor point, but it is a worry that he’s not good at understanding things.

If we could create a genealogical chart for a modern Native American back to Lehi’s generation we would have over 1 octillion ancestral slots (that’s more than 1 trillion times 1 quadrillion). Now obviously he would not have 1 octillion ancestors (there haven’t been that many people in the entire history of the world). Some ancestors would fill many of these ancestral slots. Nevertheless, on a genealogy chart, there would be 1 octillion ancestral slots. From how many slots would our Native American be descended? All of them. If Laman (or a descendant of Laman) was an ancestor in just one of these 1 octillion ancestral slots, then it can legitimately be claimed that our Native American is a Lamanite descendant.

Wow, the descendants are all Lamanites even if there was just one real Lamanite in an octillion?

What if there was none? No Lamanite ancestors at all. Because that’s the way it’s looking.

We can discount Ash’s complex web of theorising at one stroke, because there’s literally no evidence for Lamanites. But he’s working the opposite way: if we assume that the Book of Mormon is true, and if this incredibly improbable genetic swamping happened, and if words mean what he redefines them to mean, and if there’s one Lamanite back in the genealogy, and if you put on these special 3D glasses and squint a bit, then it’s remotely possible that the Mormon view could still be right. And you can keep going to Church, pay tithing, and stop worrying.

I’ll ask it again: What’s more likely, that Ash’s very complex and improbable overlapping scenarios happened in such a way as to not leave any evidence? Or that someone wrote a fake book?

Ash is once again redefining words and constructing fanciful hypotheticals to create a semblance of plausibility for his religious theory. That’s not good enough. He needs to bring publicly verifiable evidence.

Maybe religion can still do ‘comfort’ and ‘social cohesion’.

It’s just as the ministers feared: If you offer secular ethics, no one’s going to want religion anymore.

Scripture classes lose half of students to ethics, say Anglicans

THE controversial trial of secular ethics classes has ”decimated” Protestant scripture classes in the 10 NSW schools where it has been introduced as an alternative for non-religious children, with the classes losing about 47 per cent of enrolled students.

Seems that religion’s attempt to evolve has led to a conflict. See, back in the old days, religion offered a view of the earth’s history and future that claimed to be true. When that turned out to be a load of old bollocks, some religions decided that providing ‘moral instruction’ was more in their line. The problem with that was that secular people are already doing morals, thank you very much, and the morals they’ve come up with are a lot more relevant than those of the world’s religions.

I can’t say it better than Dawkins did (and ex tempore too).

Religions are not all that good at moral instruction. Their scriptures are punctuated with unprincipled savagery, and the behaviour of their leaders has been at times reprehensible. (And I forgot to mention in my original post: one recent study showed no difference in the ethical behaviour of atheists and church-goers.)

There are some good bits in with the nasty bits, but on the whole, what a mess. Leave it out of schools, and let the secular humanists present a view of morality that is well-thought out, and centered on what’s good for humans, not for imaginary people or their representatives.

New look

Hang in there. I’m just ironing out the inevitable kinks.

So what do you think? Doesn’t it look more airy and spacious? It makes the old place seem so tight and constrained.

It might take some getting used to, but I think I’m going to like the new Good Reason layout.

Atheist YouTube party

For this week’s UWA Atheist and Agnostic Society meeting, it was Atheist YouTube Party! With me as programmer. I really enjoyed the chance to share some of my faves. Here they are, as a YouTube playlist. Prepare to be offended and/or enlightened; the choice is, as always, entirely up to you.

NOTE: I think there might be a bug in the YouTube embedded playlist feature. The embedded playlist below skips the first video, which in this case was Tim Minchin’s “The Pope Song”. If you want to see it first, you can either click here to go to my blog post of a few days ago, or click here to find a working playlist on a different page.

Since I didn’t have a rock-solid net connection in the lecture room, I decided to take the precaution of downloading the videos as mp4’s using KeepVid, and then making a playlist in VLC. It made things go much more smoothly.

Talk the Talk: Language mixing + Like

A couple of new episodes of ‘Talk the Talk’ on RTRFM.

We’ve thrown it open for questions, and here’s the first. It’s about language mixing. What’s the deal with those mixed languages like ‘Franglais’, ‘Chinglish’, ‘Singlish’, and ‘Portugnol’?

Well, some of them are full languages, some are just a general tendency to borrow words, and some are something else.
Check it out here.

I’m on about 5/6ths of the way through the stream. Watch out; it starts playing as soon as the page loads.
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The second episode is about the word ‘like’. Facebook recently changed its rules so that instead of becoming a ‘fan’ of things, you ‘like’ them instead. But what’s behind the word ‘like’? It has a past, you know.

This one is an mp3.

Do you have a question about language that we should address on ‘Talk the Talk’? Well, email the station at

The Pope Song: A linguistic analysis

Been enjoying this new video from Tim Minchin. It’s catchy, but it does have a wee bit of profanity. Entirely justified.

Here are some stats about the song.

  • some variant of ‘fuck’: 84 times
  • some variant of ‘mother’ + ‘fuck’ in the same word: 35 times
  • some variant of ‘cunt’: 0 times
  • That’s one ‘fuck’ every: 1.54 seconds
  • Ratio of ‘fuck’ words to other words: 1:3.85

Other songs, for comparison:

  • Fuck tha Police by N.W.A.: One ‘fuck’ every 9.32 seconds
  • Too Drunk to Fuck by Dead Kennedys: every 8.89 seconds
  • Fucking in Heaven by Fatboy Slim: every 2.29 seconds
  • Bodies by the Sex Pistols: every 1.0 seconds (but only that one part in the third verse)
  • Fireflies by Owl City: every 0.6 seconds (subliminal)
  • Number of other songs I know that rhyme ‘papist’ and ‘rapist’: 0.

Deconversion stories: Why so long?

Why did it take so long for me to leave religion?

I keep coming back to this question, in fact kicking myself over it — all that time and energy gone. Then I cut myself some slack. I remember that it’s hard to get out of a system you’re born into, and one that you’ve believed and invested so much in.

Still, all that aside, why did it take me so long to recognise the now-obvious absurdities and contradictions in Mormon doctrine — actually, in all of theism? And Mormon doctrine is full of absurdities. Translating out of a hat? Pouring oil on someone to heal them from diseases? God living on a planet near the star Kolob? Having to memorise and repeat words and signs to get into heaven? Ridiculous in retrospect. Why did it seem so plausible at the time?

Of course, we can turn to the standard set of devices that humans use to believe the implausible: communal reinforcement, childhood indoctrination, confirmation bias. But recently I realised a little something extra that probably helped keep my belief afloat: It’s very difficult to critique a religion effectively when you still accept some religious ideas. Meeting on Saturday might seem arbitrary, but really, meeting on Sunday is equally so. Believing in chakras is not so absurd when you believe in spirits. Why would it be a problem for a ghost to tell Nephi to kill Laban, when David killed Goliath? And so on. Religious beliefs don’t seem absurd in contrast with other religious beliefs. What we’re able to question depends on what we already accept as true.

In other words, the only solid ground from which to criticise religion is atheism. But how likely is someone to question the whole kit-n-kaboodle all at once? What’s more likely to happen is that we’ll try to preserve as much of the original belief as we can. Much less painful that way. But when you do that, you’re unlikely to question that one little assumption that allows the whole structure to stand: that there’s a god who can do magical things when it wants to. If you accept that one idea, then you can magic your way around any contradiction.

Once you step outside of that bubble and question the idea of a god, then all the absurdities become transparently obvious. But that’s an advanced move, and probably one that people only try when all other options are exhausted. No wonder it can take so long.

Word of the day: be-clown

From Ron Rosenbaum’s excellent Slate article: The Tea Party’s Toxic Take on History

I think this is why it bothers me so much when Tea Party ignoramuses put swastikas on their anti-Obama posters. They disgrace themselves, they insult the dead martyrs to the truth, by lumping socialism with fascism and Obama with Hitler. They not only disgrace themselves; they be-clown themselves, they distort the historical consciousness of everyone they spread the comparison to.

That’s the Tea Party to me: an incoherent, jibbering mob of idiots be-clowning themselves.

The use of ‘be-clown’ is relatively new; besides the Rosenbaum article, the word only has a few Google hits from 2008 and 2009. But I think this word could come in mighty handy to describe the ignorant gun-toting racist freaks that currently populate our news cycles.

See, almost exactly two years ago, I predicted that the Obama years would bring a return of 90’s-style conspiracy paranoia. I didn’t foresee the nature of the TP-ers, with their poorly-informed reality-allergic antics, nor did I appreciate the sheer paralysing dumbth of their wingnut queen Sarah Palin. It wasn’t hard to see the 24-hour megaphone of Fox News stirring the pot, but the popularity of Glenn Beck was a bit of a surprise.

Ah, well, it’s tough not being psychic. But even I can tell that there’s going to be a good deal more be-clowning in future.

They can’t kill us all!

You know I’m all over this, and I can’t even draw.

After Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group, Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris wanted to counter the fear. She has declared May 20th “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day.”

I’m sure my portrait of Mohammed will be… just like the flat drawings of me in my cartoons, but with a turban. I think the turban will take the most work.

But wait — shouldn’t we refrain from drawing Mohammed, since Muslims don’t like it? Sure, we have the right to draw what we wish, but wouldn’t it be better to exercise restraint? To have some respect for other people’s traditions, even the ones we don’t agree with?

Well, that might be true, if this issue were about respect. This isn’t about respect.

Here’s the question: Do members of a religion get to force non-members to obey the rules of that religion? Under threat of violence? Because that is exactly what is happening here. Some Muslims are trying to set the terms of what non-Muslims are allowed to say, write, or draw, and they’re backing it up with threats of violence and death. This is not the social contract I signed up for.

I think drawing is a simple way to counter this trend. So I’m getting my mouse ready. Someone else will have to care for the tender feelings of the believers.

UPDATE: Inevitable Facebook group.

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