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Mixing poligion and relitics

You know what I’m going as for Hallowe’en? Myself! I’m a Godless American, and I’m scaaary!

In other news, it seems you can’t be a Christian and vote for Obama. Well, not a true Christian. And she’s got the Bible verses to prove it.

What’s the scariest thing about anti-gay Prop 8?

The scariest thing about Proposition 8 isn’t what passage or failure to pass the measure will do. It is the unrelenting attack on Mormons for having the courage to not just espouse their beliefs and values but to put their money where their principles are.

I can think of lots scarier things than that. Like giving a group of people license from God to unleash their worst and most fearful impulses. No kidding: take a bunch of people and tell them that
a) their society and children are in danger,
b) gays and gay sympathisers are responsible, and
c) their god wants them to defend their values
and you’re playing with a powder keg.

No, the scariest thing about Prop 8 is the effect it has on Mormons. I know Latter-day Saints to be basically decent and sincere people, and their leadership seems intent on turning them into hateful hypocrites. And check this out: when the best among them manage to avoid the transformation, the more orthodox members excoriate them for it. They are causing a division that will be slow in healing.

Religion is child abuse: The movie

What would motivate someone to turn their adorable children into hate-filled bigots? Only one thing I can think of. (Hint: Starts with ‘r’.)

Update: Here’s the link.

On the small chance that that little boy does happen to turn out gay (always a chance), I hope he can get away from his parents fast enough. Otherwise it’s a lifetime of low self-worth. Sad.

Via Glenn Greenwald.

Going rogue

The discomfort between McCain and Palin would appear to have flared into animus.

With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin “going rogue.”

A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser. “She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

“Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom.”

I’m noticing something here. McCain can’t be thrilled that he’s tied to Palin. She wasn’t his first choice, but he was ensnared by her magnetism or whatever it was. She doesn’t know anything, says foolish things in public, and when most people hear her speak her mind, they’re horrified. But of course it’s too late for McCain to dump her; would have been too late four weeks ago. And now she won’t shut up. You can’t make her. No one tells Queen Wingnutta what to do! She answers to a higher power, whether it’s her god or her own monstrous ambition.

Now imagine John McCain as the Republican Party, and Sarah Palin as the Christian Right. It’s the exact same relationship. They’re just like she is. They’re for creationism, abstinence, and other things that don’t work. At one point, it must have looked like a good idea to court the votes of the most ignorant and superstitious segment of the population — face it, there’s a lot of them. But once all those Christians became the wingnut base, the Republican party could not easily isolate itself from the consequences. They demanded to be fed, and the GOP obliged: conservative Supreme Court justices, gay marriage, the god-talk. The party became more religiously extremist, to the apparent horror and revulsion of regular people everywhere. It doesn’t matter to the wingnut base. Their loyalty is not with the Republican Party; they answer to a higher power. And they have anointed their queen.

And so here we are, McCain with the monster of his own creation at his throat. The chickens have met the roost. The biggest dumbasses have taken over the slightly-less-dumb asses.

No on 8

The interference of the LDS Church in California politics is deeply troubling. No, scratch that. It’s infuriating. It’s hateful. And it’s wrong. If I hadn’t already written my exit letter, I’d be tempted to rejoin the Mormons just so I can resign again in protest over this issue.

What’s the worst thing about the Mormon Church’s support of Prop. 8? Hmm…

  • The idea of parochial Mormons denying marriage to people they don’t even know, and thinking it’s the will of a supernatural being whose will they are uniquely qualified to know.
  • Quotes by sanctimonious old gits like these.

    “What we’re about is the work of the Lord, and He will bless you for your involvement,” apostle M. Russell Ballard said during the hour-long meeting, which was broadcast to church buildings in California, Utah, Hawaii and Idaho.

  • The duplicity of a church that claims to be politically neutral, only speaking out on ‘moral matters’ — and then redefining political issues as ‘moral’ when it pleases them
  • Enshrining bigotry and inequality in the California constitution
  • Millions of dollars in LDS money going to support all of this. From Sully:

    Californians Against Hate released figures Tuesday showing that $17.67 million was contributed by 59,000 Mormon families since August to groups like Yes on 8. Contributions in support of Prop. 8 total $22.88 million.

  • A tax-free religious group getting to act like a PAC. Once again the priest class is vying for political power, just like in the good old Dark Ages.

Well, there’s a lot that’s detestable about this. Mormons should be livid, even if by and large they’re not. For my part, I’m just hoping that this proposition goes down and goes down hard. I want this to be an embarrassment to the leadership of the Mormon Church. I want them to wonder why their Special Pal in the Sky didn’t come through. I want Mormons to see more and more pictures of happy gay couples at weddings with the rice and the bubbles and the cake, and after they’re through freaking out about living in the End of Days, I want them to notice how happy the newlyweds look, and I hope time will help them reconsider.

I don’t have much to spare these days, but I’m donating to No on 8 because I think this is a huge deal. I’m used to religions making lots of empty doctrinal pronouncements, but when they use their baseless theology against other people, I say it’s gone far enough.

Californians: please vote against this. Even if the news anchors call all the eastern states for Obama early, don’t let that stop you from getting to the polls.

Fear of vanishing

I’ve been viewing the YouTube videos from the Exmormon Foundation. Worth a look. There are some clips from a film called “Line Upon Line”, featuring (mostly) non-angry, pleasant former saints telling their deconversion stories.

One of the stories in Part 2 tapped into something unexpected for me. A young woman says:

Leaving the Church is hard because you are so afraid of what’s going to happen to you. And you don’t have any examples of that because people leave the Church and they scurry away, you know? Like, you don’t know — When you’re in the Church, you do not know any ex-Mormons. You don’t know ’em! And so I was really afraid of leaving the Church because I was like, no way, this can’t be real. What will I do with my life if I leave the Church? Who am I going to be, right? And so, I think that that fear keeps a lot of people, either consciously or subconsciously, in the Church.

Well, that’s about right. In testimony meetings, Latter-day Saints seem to tell each other constantly how they don’t know where they’d be without the Church. They’d probably all be dead. Or in jail. Like everyone else who isn’t in the Church. And Latter-day Saints are routinely warned that if they don’t keep the promises they make in LDS temples, they’ll be in Satan’s power. Have to keep ’em scared of ghosts, you see.

But this quote touched on another part of the scariness that I think I must have harboured without realising. I have known a few people that stopped coming to church. They deleted themselves from the sample, you could say. And, what do you know, they did disappear, and I never saw them again. So the unspoken impression I think I got was: If you leave the Church, you will disappear. How frightening!

It’s nobody’s fault. Just an artifact of participation (or lack thereof) in social groups. But for me it seems a powerful cognitive illusion that I hadn’t noticed before.

So it’s a good thing that I show up every once in a while at church. I drop the boys off to be with their Mom, wearing nice but non-churchy clothes. No, I haven’t disappeared, I tell my old friends. I’m still here, and I’m very happy without religion.

Pareidolia of the daylia: The doll

Some Christians are in a tizzy about a babbling doll.

But before you check out the article, have a listen to the doll, and see if it sounds like anything to you.

Parents are outraged about the messages they’re hearing from a doll. It’s Fisher-Price’s “Little Mommy Real Loving Baby Cuddle and Coo” doll.

Some people claim they can hear it mumble “Satan is king” in one track; then clearly speak “Islam is the light” in another.

People! Did you learn nothing from the 80s? It’s obviously backmasking!

Here, have a listen backwards.

The first thing we hear is “Down went the mountain.” An obvious reference to Mohammed. Notice also the murmuring that sounds like ‘Mohammed’, if you listen enough times. Then there’s laughter. The evil laughter… of SATAN.

Far more insidious than even the creative minds of Oklahomans could have supposed.

Via Pharyngula.

Parishioners chase, eat each other

The mainstream Anglican church down the road, in an effort to forestall its screeching slide toward irrelevance, has come up with this cute little gimmick:


“Pet Blessing
Sunday 5th October
Bring your finned, furry, or feathered friends.”

They’ll be baptising them next. It may revive flagging membership numbers.

Well, it may not be the most fun you can have with a goat in church, but it may be your only plausible excuse for getting one in.

Emails I get

Here’s an email from a well-meaning relative. Sorry about the caps; they’re in the original. At least it wasn’t in PowerPoint this time.

What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?

We have all been in situations where someone wants you to GIVE OVER 100%.

How about ACHIEVING 101%?

What equals 100% in life?

Here’s a little mathematical formula that might help
answer these questions:

If:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

Is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.

If:

H-A-R-D-W-O- R- K

8+1+18+4+23+ 15+18+11 = 98%

And:

K-N-O-W-L-E- D-G-E

11+14+15+23+ 12+5+4+7+ 5 = 96%

But:

A-T-T-I-T-U- D-E

1+20+20+9+20+ 21+4+5 = 100%

THEN, look how far the love of God will take you:

L-O-V-E-O-F- G-O-D

12+15+22+5+15+ 6+7+15+4 = 101%

Therefore, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that:

While Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, It’s the Love of God that will put you over the top!

Well, there you have it, proof positive.

So I decided to try it myself.

WATCH TV = 97%

Well, shoot. Watching TV’s almost as good as hard work, and easier besides. It’s a mathematical certainty!

VEGETARIAN = 102%

Wow, who would have thought that being veg would take you 1 percent farther than the love of God? Truly amazing.

TURN GAY = 106%

Better still! Give it all you’ve got.

Which is better, church or museum?

CHURCH = 61%
MUSEUM = 92%

Neither puts you over the line, but ‘museum’ plus ‘gift shop’ would probably do it.

And if you encode

I DON’T ACCEPT THE EXISTENCE OF ANY SUPERNATURAL BEINGS WHATSOEVER

you get 666… percent.

Uh-oh.

Conversations with the Priest: The lucky hat

The Priest was another try at reviving my sense of spirituality. He’s a good chap. He really does try. He’s hoping that I’ll get a Big Feeling and realise the error of using evidence and reason. Imagine if I did have a big teary spiritual experience. That would just show that I’m as susceptible to emotional thinking as anyone else. I already know that.

This time he was talking about prayer.

“I’ve found that the Lord never lets me down,” he said. “I always get what I pray for, if I’m praying for the right thing. It doesn’t always happen immediately, though.”

“No, it sure doesn’t,” I said. “Remember that fast that happened last year, to end the drought?”

“Ahem,” he said.

“There’s still a drought, isn’t there?” I said. “And have you heard anyone mention it in church since?”

He looked uncomfortable. “Yes, well… we have had an increase in precipitation….”

He was moving the goal posts, but I ignored it.

“I have something that works like that,” I said. “I have a lucky hat. I believe that when I wear my lucky hat, lucky things happen to me. One time I found some money. Another time, I found a parking spot right where I wanted. It’s the hat that does it.

“It doesn’t always happen immediately, though.”

My lucky hat uses the same principle as prayer, the Secret, and all other superstitions. It uses selective observation, or counting the hits and ignoring the misses. And it uses the power of having no evidence and believing what you like anyway.

“You know,” said the Priest, “you’re asking for empirical evidence. I admit that such evidence isn’t available. But I think the Lord does it that way on purpose… to see if we’ll exercise faith in him. If we had evidence, it wouldn’t require us to have faith.”

I said, “That’s exactly what I would expect someone to say if they couldn’t support their claims with evidence, but they didn’t want to abandon the claim.”

NB: The Priest is not a real person. He’s an amalgam of many religious people I’ve spoken with. I only write down a conversation with “the Priest” after I’ve heard the same claims from at least three different people. As a result, the dialogue is almost entirely made up, in order to make myself sound cool. Or it could be 100% accurate. I forget.

Calm down, all of you.

The scripture of the day:

“We’re sensitive to the fluid dynamics of the campaign, but we have a game plan and a strategy,” said Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, David Plouffe. “We’re familiar with this. And I’m sure between now and Nov. 4 there will be another period of hand-wringing and bed-wetting. It comes with the territory.”

Democrats last week were in a panic over Palin, prompting the run on adult diapers that reverberated through the economy, inadvertently destroying Lehman Brothers, fomenting global warming, and hastening the eventual heat death of the universe.

I admit to indulging in a bit of the panic. One night I woke up at 3, worrying that Obama was going to lose this thing. Another night I dreamed that McCain had asked me to be his running mate. There I was thinking, “What am I doing on the Republican ticket?” (It has occurred to me since that I’d be a stronger running mate than Palin. I don’t have any foreign policy experience, but I do have a degree in International Relations.)

We Democrats do this. We fret and fume, and watch helplessly as the worst people in the world control the dialogue and capture everyone’s attention with the dumbest things. And we worry that, yet again, the scumbags will win.

And every time the polls show the race to be closer than we’d like, we get people telling us that there’s something wrong with what we’re doing. It always seems to be about… the good people. Yes, those simple humble folk who bow their heads and pray around the dinner table every night (with no fancy lettuce, mind you). They’re founts of wisdom, these common decent souls, issuing simple homilies as they hook their thumbs into their armpits and rock back and forth. And we Democrats abuse them mercilessly as we look down our urban noses at their pious ways. We’re losing… (wait for it!)… people of faith.

Here’s a prognosticator now. Scott Atran.

I’m an atheist liberal academic who strongly leans Democrat. But I’m stunned at how blind so many of my colleagues and soul mates are to the historical underpinnings of American political culture and the genuine appeal of religious conservatism for so many of our fellow citizens.

Among many Republican conservatives, one factor strongly correlates with patriotism and national security, is of even more overriding concern in daily life, and stands inseparable from love of country. Religion.

Well, it’s one thing to understand the appeal religion has for people, and quite another to be infected with it yourself. I only wish Democrats were more immune to it — they’re nowhere near as secular as Atran is suggesting.

Or this article from Jonathan Haidt. I’ve linked to him before.

When Republicans say that Democrats “just don’t get it,” this is the “it” to which they refer. Conservative positions on gays, guns, god, and immigration must be understood as means to achieve one kind of morally ordered society. When Democrats try to explain away these positions using pop psychology they err, they alienate, and they earn the label “elitist.” But how can Democrats learn to see—let alone respect—a moral order they regard as narrow-minded, racist, and dumb?

Now, how is this view different from the “Democrats need to learn some respect” meme seen here? Only in tone, not in substance. If we don’t tell the believers (you know, the ones who are trying to block certain kinds of marriage and birth control) that their views are perfectly valid and very nice, they’ll never vote with us.

As though they ever would. When did Republicans ever concede any ground to us? Now that they’re down in the popularity polls, are they abandoning parts of their social agenda? No-sirree! Are the radio hate jocks acting more conciliatory? With rare exceptions, no. Do we hear Republicans saying that they need to reach out to secular Americans and try to understand us? No, they still think we’re vermin, and they wonder whether we can have any sense of morality at all.

But that could be the point. The antagonistic approach (surprise!) doesn’t win friends. So the question Haidt, Atran, and other concern trolls pose is: Do you want to win elections or don’t you? It’s all very well for you to be right, but do you want to be president?

Well, I understand the concern. I’ve seen the disaster that political and religious fundamentalists have wrought and I’m not anxious for more. But I am not certain that it is worth winning elections at any cost, if part of that cost is abandoning rationality and sinking into the mire of fuzzy-headed spiritism. That’s an approach that’s guaranteed to make the problems we face worse, not better.

And suggesting that Democrats need to mend their ways is silly. How do conservatives magically know what individual Democrats think? How do they know your individual views? Have they asked you? Or are we just being stereotyped — again? I think the latter, and if you feel like modifying your behaviour so others won’t stereotype you, frankly you need to grow a set. If we all changed our ways tomorrow and acted like Atran, Haidt, et al wanted, how long would it take hardcore conservative fundamentalists to even notice? They haven’t yet noticed that Bush is an incompetent liar and they still think Iraq was a fine idea. The reality lag for these people is measured in geological time.

So don’t wait for them. Have your facts straight, pick your battles, and tell people (politely but firmly) when they’re wrong on factual matters. Realise that it may not be possible to be ‘right’ on moral matters — they often won’t be good at realising this — so you may need to state your values clearly, and stay open to change.

Sam Harris’s response to Haidt is my favourite:

How should we live? Is it wrong to lie? If so, why and in what sense? Which personal habits, uses of attention, modes of discourse, social institutions, economic systems, governments, etc. are most conducive to human well-being? It is widely imagined that science cannot even pose, much less answer, questions of this sort.

Jonathan Haidt appears to exult in this pessimism. He doubts that anyone can justifiably make strong, realistic claims about right and wrong, or good and evil, because he has observed that human beings tend to make moral judgments on the basis of emotion, justify these judgments with post hoc reasoning, and stick to their guns even when their post hoc reasoning demonstrably fails…. This reliable failure of human reasoning is just that—a failure of reasoning.

Haidt often writes, however, as if there were no such thing as moral high ground. At the very least, he seems to believe that science will never be able to judge higher from lower. He admonishes us to get it into our thick heads that many of our neighbors “honestly prefer the Republican vision of a moral order to the one offered by Democrats.” Yes, and many of them honestly prefer the Republican vision of cosmology, wherein it is still permissible to believe that the big bang occurred less than ten thousand years ago. These same people tend to prefer Republican doubts about biological evolution and climate change. There are names for this type of “preference,” one of the more polite being “ignorance.” What scientific purpose is served by avoiding this word at all costs?

And second is Roger Schank.

It is all very nice to come up with complex analyses of what is going on. As is often the case, the real answer is quite simple. Most people can’t think very well. They were taught not to think by religion and by a school system that teaches that knowledge of state capitals and quadratic equations is what education is all about and that well reasoned argument and original ideas will not help on a multiple choice test.

We don’t try to get the average child to think in this society so why, as adults would we expect that they actually would be thinking? They think about how the Yankees are doing, and who will win some reality show contest, and what restaurant to eat it, but they are not equipped to think about politics and, in my mind, they are not equipped to vote. The fact that we let them vote while failing to encourage them to think for themselves is a real problem for our society.

Republicans do not try to change voter’s beliefs. They go with them. Democrats appeal to reason. Big mistake.

Well, that’s pretty dark. But maybe (just maybe!) this time the good guys will win. I think so, but I’m an optimist. Obama beat the Clintons, he can beat McCain. Even if he doesn’t, you have to live with yourself more than other people do. So quit your hand-wringing and your bed-wetting. You’re already part of the community on the Web that’s waging the battle of opinions, and setting the agenda for the next Information Age, comment by intelligent well-supported comment. Take heart! Be your own freaky self. Vote.

That is all.

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