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2008 election thread

It’s tomorrow in Australia, so I don’t need to stay up late for an election live-blog.

10:43 am
What’s up with Virginia?
What’s up with North Carolina? the other way?

10:45 am
When you listen to electoral coverage, and someone says that America needs ‘a new direction’, I think it’s funny to imagine that they’re saying ‘a nude erection’. Try it.

11:00 am
More polls closing.
Exciting to watch the blue states coming up.
North Dakota for McCain. There goes my prediction. I thought it would hold some surprises, but no.
But they’re not projecting Arizona! Would Arizona too much to ask?

11:15 am
Pennsylvania: I heart u.
Okay, Virginia’s coming back.
Indiana’s doing interesting things.

11:17 am
The Australian TV analysts are being far more candid than the US anchors are willing to be (or ought to be). Here they’re calling it a done deal for Obama.

11:27 am
Ohio is called for Obama. I’d say that’s a done deal. I just want Florida to go for Obama, just to get the trifecta.

11:27 am
Man, Virginia’s close, but it’s coming along. I wish Missouri’d do a flip.

12:51 pm
Florida’s looking great! At this point, it’s all about crushing their spirits.

12:55 pm
Could the Australian TV people please stop calling it the Democrat Party, kthxbai.

1:00 pm
I seriously have tears in my eyes watching everyone in Grant Park. Everyone’s so happy. The long nightmare is almost over. This is history, and it’s happening right now, and I’m so proud to be an American this day.

1:12 pm
At this point, it’s all cleanup. Arizona’s not going to go blue. Missouri probably not either. Less than I was hoping, but a win’s a win.

1:19 pm
If I never hear McCain say “My friends” again…

I thought only speakers of British English said “an historic occasion”.

1:23 pm
McCain’s giving a nice speech. Sounds like he’s having trouble controlling the crowd, which isn’t surprising given the hysterical hyping up he gave them the last four weeks. It doesn’t help that he’s a bit tone-deaf on the applause lines. But this can’t be an easy speech to give, and he’s striking the right notes.

Sarah Palin’s an ‘impressive new voice’ in the GOP? No, she’s the voice of the Christian Right, which we’ve been hearing for 20 years. And we’re not rid of them yet.

Now McCain has to live with what he became during this campaign.

1:29 pm
No on Arizona, no on Missouri, but look at Indiana. That’d be a nice cherry on the cake.

1:33 pm
Nervous about North Carolina. I really want that to go over the line.

Now I’m looking at the Senate races. And Prop 8 is being counted now.

1:37 pm
Oh, man. Franken’s ahead just a whisker.

1:42 pm
This is a day for dancing on couches. That’s what I did in ’92 when Clinton won. Couch dance. What a feeling.

1:44 pm
What about Montana? It’s early, but I’d love to see it happen.

2:05
Obama just exudes this aura of cool. Isn’t he suave up there on stage?
You have to hand it to the campaign team. They called it all the way along.

Nathan Phelps interview

Nathan Phelps, son of Fred Phelps and erstwhile member of the odious Westboro Baptist Church, has managed to break free of the brainwashing inflicted upon him as a child, and is now an atheist. An interview with Nate appears in the Ubyssey.

[Nate and his wife] joined a church, where they met many other families, five of which they became close with.

“Every Sunday, I was listening closely and trying desperately to find something in the preaching or in the words that would convince me that this was right. Even while I was doing that, I was always skeptical…but I never voiced it. I was very good at playing the apologist for the Christian faith. In fact, I had quite a reputation for writing and talking in defence of Christianity.”

The turning point was one Christmas, when Nate decided to teach his children about God. In the end, his son Tyler began crying in the backseat of the car, saying that he didn’t want to go to hell.

“He wanted to believe because he didn’t want to go to hell,” Nate said. “I was just stunned because I didn’t know what I had said or how I had left him with that fear. I thought I was doing a good job of presenting it without the fear.

“Thinking about it after the fact, I realized you can’t do that. With a young mind it doesn’t matter. You can try as much as you want to talk about how good God is, but the bottom line is there’s this intolerably frightening punishment if you don’t accept it. And how does a young mind deal with that?”

It’s worth reading for Nate’s story alone, but as a bonus, Shirley Phelps-Roper herself appears in comments to tell us why Nate is going to Hell, as indeed are all the rest of us.

Remember: God hates figs.

Friday Random Five, taking the high road

This week I’m really enjoying The Ghost That Carried Us Away by Seabear. It has a child-like quality that sounds very fresh and welcoming. It’s like the Lilac Time did an album with Sigur Rós, with zombie Elliott Smith whisper-singing along.

Song for Children by Brian Wilson
Album: Smile
Speaking of childlike. I don’t know how to take this album. It has some real touches of genius (I think I can hear — no kidding — Monteverdi in the album’s opening), but what to make of the calliope and whirligigs? Is this a retreat into childhood, but maybe (for Wilson) happier this time? A relic of nostalgia-tinged 60’s California? A strange experiment by a troubled genius? I’m willing to give this album some time because this is clearly made with loads of skill and control, but it is odd.

Pay No Mind (Snoozer) by Beck
Album: Mellow Gold
Speaking of odd. Beck was a strange lad in the early years. This one’s a lazy strummer with free-association lyrics everywhere. Try ‘There’s shopping malls coming out of the walls’. No? How about ‘Give the finger to the rock-n-roll singer’.

Waiting for the Sun by The Doors
Album: The Best of the Doors
A dark carpeted room with candlesticks.

Me and My Arrow by Harry Nilsson
Album: The Point (Soundtrack)
I have a very vivid memory of this song on AM radio in the 70’s. I must have been 5 or 6, and my sister was singing this song to me. We were in the kitchen, me sitting on the counter, and we were laughing and singing and being silly.

Eventually she grew up and became less fun, more adult, and that was hard for me to understand at the time. And I know she doesn’t quite understand ways that I’ve changed now. It’s hard to get back to those times.

Reise, Reise by Rammstein
Album: Reise, Reise
I think I like the idea of Rammstein better than I like Rammstein itself. Over the top grinding metal with heavy German vocals. How can you not love the concept? I like the album, but I never seek it out.

Not a lot gets by them.

You know why I read the New York Times? For the interesting little-known facts they dig up.

The survey suggested that Mr. Obama’s candidacy — if elected, he would be the first black president — has changed some perceptions of race in America.

Huh. Izzat right. How bout that.

Mixing poligion and relitics

You know what I’m going as for Hallowe’en? Myself! I’m a Godless American, and I’m scaaary!

In other news, it seems you can’t be a Christian and vote for Obama. Well, not a true Christian. And she’s got the Bible verses to prove it.

What’s the scariest thing about anti-gay Prop 8?

The scariest thing about Proposition 8 isn’t what passage or failure to pass the measure will do. It is the unrelenting attack on Mormons for having the courage to not just espouse their beliefs and values but to put their money where their principles are.

I can think of lots scarier things than that. Like giving a group of people license from God to unleash their worst and most fearful impulses. No kidding: take a bunch of people and tell them that
a) their society and children are in danger,
b) gays and gay sympathisers are responsible, and
c) their god wants them to defend their values
and you’re playing with a powder keg.

No, the scariest thing about Prop 8 is the effect it has on Mormons. I know Latter-day Saints to be basically decent and sincere people, and their leadership seems intent on turning them into hateful hypocrites. And check this out: when the best among them manage to avoid the transformation, the more orthodox members excoriate them for it. They are causing a division that will be slow in healing.

Religion is child abuse: The movie

What would motivate someone to turn their adorable children into hate-filled bigots? Only one thing I can think of. (Hint: Starts with ‘r’.)

Update: Here’s the link.

On the small chance that that little boy does happen to turn out gay (always a chance), I hope he can get away from his parents fast enough. Otherwise it’s a lifetime of low self-worth. Sad.

Via Glenn Greenwald.

Going rogue

The discomfort between McCain and Palin would appear to have flared into animus.

With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin “going rogue.”

A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” said this McCain adviser. “She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

“Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom.”

I’m noticing something here. McCain can’t be thrilled that he’s tied to Palin. She wasn’t his first choice, but he was ensnared by her magnetism or whatever it was. She doesn’t know anything, says foolish things in public, and when most people hear her speak her mind, they’re horrified. But of course it’s too late for McCain to dump her; would have been too late four weeks ago. And now she won’t shut up. You can’t make her. No one tells Queen Wingnutta what to do! She answers to a higher power, whether it’s her god or her own monstrous ambition.

Now imagine John McCain as the Republican Party, and Sarah Palin as the Christian Right. It’s the exact same relationship. They’re just like she is. They’re for creationism, abstinence, and other things that don’t work. At one point, it must have looked like a good idea to court the votes of the most ignorant and superstitious segment of the population — face it, there’s a lot of them. But once all those Christians became the wingnut base, the Republican party could not easily isolate itself from the consequences. They demanded to be fed, and the GOP obliged: conservative Supreme Court justices, gay marriage, the god-talk. The party became more religiously extremist, to the apparent horror and revulsion of regular people everywhere. It doesn’t matter to the wingnut base. Their loyalty is not with the Republican Party; they answer to a higher power. And they have anointed their queen.

And so here we are, McCain with the monster of his own creation at his throat. The chickens have met the roost. The biggest dumbasses have taken over the slightly-less-dumb asses.

Election prediction thread

Okay, we’re a little more than a week out. Using a few polling websites, my Magic 8 Ball, and a Ouija board, I’ve put together a map of states that are likely to go Obama. Basically I’ve colored anything blue if it’s a safe blue state, or on the edge. I threw in a few surprises (South Dakota, Georgia). I like the look of it.

I think this is the best outcome we’re likely to see. Granted, 399/538 is a real landslide.

So what’s your scenario? Give us a map, or just tell us
– President (duh), electoral votes, and percentage
– Number of Democratic congress-people
– Number of Democratic Senators
– The outcome for any other pieces of legislation current before the populace

No on 8

The interference of the LDS Church in California politics is deeply troubling. No, scratch that. It’s infuriating. It’s hateful. And it’s wrong. If I hadn’t already written my exit letter, I’d be tempted to rejoin the Mormons just so I can resign again in protest over this issue.

What’s the worst thing about the Mormon Church’s support of Prop. 8? Hmm…

  • The idea of parochial Mormons denying marriage to people they don’t even know, and thinking it’s the will of a supernatural being whose will they are uniquely qualified to know.
  • Quotes by sanctimonious old gits like these.

    “What we’re about is the work of the Lord, and He will bless you for your involvement,” apostle M. Russell Ballard said during the hour-long meeting, which was broadcast to church buildings in California, Utah, Hawaii and Idaho.

  • The duplicity of a church that claims to be politically neutral, only speaking out on ‘moral matters’ — and then redefining political issues as ‘moral’ when it pleases them
  • Enshrining bigotry and inequality in the California constitution
  • Millions of dollars in LDS money going to support all of this. From Sully:

    Californians Against Hate released figures Tuesday showing that $17.67 million was contributed by 59,000 Mormon families since August to groups like Yes on 8. Contributions in support of Prop. 8 total $22.88 million.

  • A tax-free religious group getting to act like a PAC. Once again the priest class is vying for political power, just like in the good old Dark Ages.

Well, there’s a lot that’s detestable about this. Mormons should be livid, even if by and large they’re not. For my part, I’m just hoping that this proposition goes down and goes down hard. I want this to be an embarrassment to the leadership of the Mormon Church. I want them to wonder why their Special Pal in the Sky didn’t come through. I want Mormons to see more and more pictures of happy gay couples at weddings with the rice and the bubbles and the cake, and after they’re through freaking out about living in the End of Days, I want them to notice how happy the newlyweds look, and I hope time will help them reconsider.

I don’t have much to spare these days, but I’m donating to No on 8 because I think this is a huge deal. I’m used to religions making lots of empty doctrinal pronouncements, but when they use their baseless theology against other people, I say it’s gone far enough.

Californians: please vote against this. Even if the news anchors call all the eastern states for Obama early, don’t let that stop you from getting to the polls.

Political LOL

ThinkProgress notes John McCain’s claim that he’s never changed his mind.

MCCAIN: You’ll have to tell me what’s changed. I love it when they say, “Oh McCain has changed.” And I say, “What have I changed on?” They can’t name a single issue or they’ll name an issue and its false. I’m the same guy. I’m proud of our campaign.

In fact, ThinkProgress has listed 44 issues that McCain has flip-flopped on, from torture to taxes to energy.

I don’t mind if someone learns more and changes their views on something. McCain should be doing that every day. But to do this many 180’s and then claim you haven’t is delusional.

Add Palin into the equation, and what do you get?

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