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Religion and divorce

A sad story from the NYT: what happens in custody arrangements when parents get divorced, and then one parent turns into a religious froot-looper?

From the age of 1 month, Mrs. Snider’s daughter had lived with her, and later Mrs. Snider’s new husband, Brian Snider, with occasional visits to her biological father.

But in 2003, when Libby was 6, an Alabama court gave primary custody to her father, William Mashburn, after he and Mrs. Snider’s own family argued that the strict religious upbringing Libby received at her mother’s home, which involved modest dress, teachings about sin and salvation, and limited exposure to popular culture, was damaging her.

The Sniders are quietly, unapologetically fundamentalist. They believe that American culture, even conservative denominations like the Southern Baptist Convention, has drifted perilously far from biblical teachings. They attend a large Independent Baptist church in Madison, where the music, the sanctuary and the congregants are unadorned and old-fashioned.

Women wear skirts as a sign of modesty. They do not swim in mixed company. They eschew rock music and nearly all popular culture. They do not drink, smoke or swear.

The Sniders have raised Libby, now 11, in that tradition. But it has put them at odds with Mr. Mashburn and Mrs. Snider’s family. Mr. Mashburn and his lawyer declined to comment .

Mrs. Snider said she understood that Libby might wear pants at her father’s home or go to the movies. But she insisted that Mr. Mashburn not swear or drink in front of Libby or expose her to inappropriate movies and music, which, she said, he has repeatedly done.

I would say that this situation (like most post-divorce situations) can be worked around by not being a jerk, but this advice doesn’t help when one’s religion more or less requires one to be a jerk.

Even when both parents want what’s best for the child, religion throws everything into disarray because the religious froot-loop parent thinks the child will go to hell unless they obey the arcane rules of the religious system.

Just another way in which the non-negotiable absolutism of religious belief harms children. And how’s this for a heart-breaking conclusion:

At the last hearing, Libby, who spends about 40 percent of her time with the Sniders, testified against Mr. Mashburn.

“I’m more of my mom’s religion, and my dad sometimes talks bad about my mom,” she said. “He called it a cult, and it’s definitely not a cult. It kind of makes me mad sometimes. Maybe he thinks her religion may be bad for me, but I think mainly he doesn’t like my mom and is using that as an excuse.”

Will she ever escape fundamentalism and rebuild a good relationship with her father? Sounds like the spilt is only going to grow. But hey, what’s the problem. Didn’t Jesus say:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

It’s a feature, not a bug.

Inevitable music gentrification

There I am in the Pizza Hut with Oldest Boy, when I hear “Kill the Poor” over the stereo. “Hey, you’re listening to the Dead Kennedys!” I say.

The pizza guy blinks. “Yeah, no one else has recognised it yet.”

“That’s cool. I went to see them in Salt Lake in ’85. Jello Biafra stage dived on my head.”

“Wow,” says Pizza Man, who may or may not be stoned.

“Who are the Dead Kennedys?” asked Oldest Boy back in the car.

“Are you kidding? Have I never played you any DK’s at all?” I asked. “What kind of father am I?”

It only took a second to dial the iPod to the appropriate folder, not counting the time it took to ignore the irony. Soon we were jamming down the road to “Religious Vomit”. I was explaining how the Dead Kennedys were able to meld British punk into an genuinely American brand of thrash infused with leftist political sensibilities and extremely tight musicianship.

And I thought: Is this an odd situation? My introduction to the Kennedys was not family friendly. I think it was at Chad Smith’s house. I was listening to this grotty obscure punk stuff that no one was listening to, and I felt cool. My son’s introduction to the DK’s was from his Dad’s car stereo. Not particularly counter-culture or transgressive.

I suppose it’s like high school, when you hoped the normal people wouldn’t find out about your music because that was what made you different. But everyone did anyway, which is why alternative music became the new mainstream in 1991, and everybody became hip, which was not cool.

But these things have a way of traveling in cycles. Oldest Boy will find his own sound with its own forbidden allure. And when he does, he’d better tell me about it, unless it sucks.

Secular school

Are people good because they have an evolutionarily-endowed drive toward compassion? Or is it because parents teach them? That’s one of the arguments for taking kids to church, isn’t it? — that they learn moral principles. Of course, kids learn a lot of immoral brain-crippling things in church too, like belief in non-existant entities and short-circuiting reason via faith. So wouldn’t it be good for secular parents to be approaching their children’s moral upbringing in a more structured way?

That’s the idea behind Atheist Sunday school for kids.

The lives of these young people would be much easier, adult nonbelievers say, if they learned at an early age how to respond to the God-fearing majority in the U.S. “It’s important for kids not to look weird,” says Peter Bishop, who leads the preteen class at the Humanist center in Palo Alto. Others say the weekly instruction supports their position that it’s O.K. to not believe in God and gives them a place to reinforce the morals and values they want their children to have.

I like the idea of inoculating children from religion by educating them about it. Too many people raise their kids without any knowledge about religion, only to have them get older, hear about Christianity (or whatever) and think it’s the greatest thing.

So you think, great, now we can bore children with secularism like we bore them with religion. But don’t be like that. It’d be good.

Imagine starting out with a child reading a quote from Tom Paine. Then an opening song: John Lennon’s Imagine. (Well, maybe something else.)

Then a story; perhaps a Norse creation myth. The children could then make up their own creation story and illustrate it.

After a quick round of Spot the Fallacy, it’s TV time: something about dinosaurs.

Wrap it up with something about any of the following areas:

  • critical thinking
  • science and nature
  • logic and reason
  • self-worth and confidence

I think it’d be great. Just make it no more than an hour long, and have ice cream. They love that.

Teaching children about religion

Only a couple of years ago, I would have been horrified if my kids hadn’t wanted to be active in the Church. Now, after my deconversion, I’ll be horrified if they do. I realise it’s a major flip, and it must be confusing for the little dears. Their mother is still taking them to church, and as I watch them go every Sunday, I feel a sense of dread. I think it’s the same feeling as the mom from that scene in Erin Brockovich. You know the one:

INT. IRVING HOUSE, LIVING ROOM – DAY

Another copy of those DOCUMENTS, now in Donna’s hands. She’s
on her couch with Erin, reading them. Outside, Donna’s two
daughters are playing in the pool. She reads the last page
and looks up at Erin, bewildered.

DONNA
An on-site monitoring well? That means —

ERIN
It was right up on the PG&E property over
there.

DONNA
And you say this stuff, this hexavalent
chromium — it’s poisonous?

ERIN
Yeah.

DONNA
Well — then it’s gotta be a different than
what’s in our water, cause ours is okay.
The guys from PG&E told me. They sat right
in the kitchen and said it was fine.

ERIN
I know. But the toxicologist I been talking
to? He gave me a list of problems that can
come from hexavalent chromium exposure. And
everything you all have is on that list.

Donna resists this idea hard.

DONNA
No. Hunh-uh, see, that’s not what the
doctor said. He said one’s got absolutely
nothing to do with the other.

ERIN
Right, but — didn’t you say he was paid by
PG&E?

Donna sits quietly, trying to make sense of this. The only
sound is the LAUGHING and SPLASHING from the pool out back.
Then, gradually, Donna realizes what it is she’s hearing —
her kids playing in toxic water. She jumps up …

DONNA
ASHLEY! SHANNA!

… and runs out to the pool. Erin follows her.

EXT. DONNA’S HOUSE – DAY

From the door, Erin watches Donna run to the edge of the pool
in a frantic response to this news.

DONNA
OUT OF THE POOL! BOTH OF YOU, OUT OF THE
POOL, RIGHT NOW!

SHANNA
How come?

DONNA
CAUSE I SAID SO, THAT’S WHY, NOW GET OUT!
OUT! NOW!!!

Erin watches compassionately as Donna flails to get her kids
out of the contaminated water.

Now surely that’s too dramatic, isn’t it? Swimming in a toxic pool isn’t the same as going to church. What harm is religion going to do them? The harm is this: religion kills critical thinking skills in people who are most devoted to it.

Religion offers a substitute for reason. It offers faith instead of evidence. Instead of teaching that something’s true because it’s well-supported, it teaches that something’s true because

a) the holy book said,
b) the man at the pulpit said, or
c) it ‘feels right’.

Psychological traps such as wishful thinking, anecdotal evidence, communal reinforcement, selective sampling, and confirmation bias are part and parcel of the religious experience. Their use is encouraged and rewarded by the group. With all these fallacies in play, religious devotion is going to hamper good reasoning and encourage fallacious thinking. And this will cause bad decisions along the way. What parent wants to see their children make bad decisions? Or what parent wants to hinder their child’s thinking skills? Yet this is what religion does.

So even though all the ‘golden rule’ talk is pretty innocuous, I sometimes want to grab my boys out of Sunday School, tuck one of them under each arm, and run out of the building to make the brain damage stop.

What can the deconverted parent do to help children reason despite the influence of religion? While it’s difficult for me not to be negative about religion (as you’ve noticed), on better days I use a more positive approach:

Teach reason. Learning how to examine ideas is a skill children will use throughout their lives. And it’s less controversial to believing family members than bagging religion to the kids. When Youngest Boy asks, “Do you think the Golden Plates are real?”, I like to ask “How could we find out?” I get them to think about what sort of evidence would be adequate, and what sources would be reliable. Sometimes I show them optical illusions, and I tell them about crop circles and Bigfoot, and how easy it is for people to be fooled.

It’s usually in the car that we talk about logic and fallacies. Yesterday in the car, the boys were arguing about something, and Oldest Boy said, “You made the claim, so it’s up to you to provide the evidence!” Once I blew on the lights to ‘change’ them, and when I said, “Look, it worked,” Youngest Boy said, “That’s post hoc, Dad.” And I thought, I must be doing something right.

I suppose I should add that I like teaching reasoning skills rather than teaching that Religion Is Bad because, you know, I could be wrong. They’ll need to work that one out themselves.

Teach religion. Under most circumstances, I’d fight hard to keep religion out of schools. But my kids’ school teaches a lot of religion, and I couldn’t be happier. Why? Because they teach everything from Norse myths to Hinduism. They go through Greek and Roman mythology, the lives of Catholic saints, and Australian Aboriginal creation legends. By presenting Christian fables as one set of stories among many, it naturally raises the question: what claim does this religion have as the ‘true one’ when so many other people have believed so many things? Why does Mom believe in Jesus and not Zeus?

There’s an added benefit to telling my kids religious stories: it inoculates them. Parents who raise their children without religious instruction run the risk of them contracting it in a world of infected people. I’ve seen a number of cases where parents do a great job of raising kids secular, but then later in life someone gives them a copy of ‘Mere Christianity’ and they think it’s the greatest thing they’ve ever seen. If they’d been taught about Christian mythology (and Greek, and Norse, etc), they’d realise they’d heard it before, and we wouldn’t get them in church saying “My family doesn’t know about the Gospel.”

So I don’t mind so much when the boys go off to church with their mother. I just wave and say “Bye kids! Remember to ask for evidence!”

I don’t envy their Sunday School teacher.

Do not hit children.

Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times, yes. Pass a law to ban hitting children.

Calif. Lawmaker Seeks Ban on Spanking
California parents could face jail and a fine for spanking their young children under legislation a state lawmaker has promised to introduce next week.

Hitting your children is not an appropriate consequence. There are always better consequences for the things children do.

There’s a step missing, though. Parenting classes need to be available for anyone who wants them.

Case study: There’s a empty house next door. Oldest Boy once threw a couple of rocks through the window. He thought the house was abandoned. The owner wasn’t too pleased. So Boy and I went to see the neighbour and explained, and then he paid to fix the window. (I paid the neighbour, and Boy repaid me a couple of dollars out of his allowance per week.) And that was it. He never felt the need to do it again. I didn’t need to yell at him or hit him.

Hitting children is an entirely useless consequence that has nothing to do with the offense, does nothing to deter repetition, and engenders revenge.

Another thought:

The governor said he and his wife, Maria Shriver, did not spank their four children and used alternative methods for discipline. For example, Schwarzenegger said they found it more effective to threaten to take away their children’s play time if they didn’t do school work.

“They hate that much more than getting spanked,” he told reporters Friday in Los Angeles.

Perhaps the Schwarzenegger children were so well-behaved because if they were naughty, they’d have Arnold Schwarzenegger beating on their ass. Well, maybe not from the sound of it.

UPDATE: If you need another reason not to hit your kids, consider this. It seems to turn them into authoritarian wingnuts. Who then defend the practice of hitting the next generation of kids. Stop the cycle! of Republicanism.

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