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UWA O-Day hijinx with the AAS

UWA O(rientation)-Day is tomorrow, and I’ll be out there handing out info for the UWA Atheist and Agnostic Society. Come along if you want to meet up with me, have a chat, and perhaps join up, if you’re a university-type person.

Last year, we enjoyed the inexplicable presence of Mormon missionaries. They would try unconvincingly to plug their faith, and I’d point out their logical flaws and utter lack of evidence. Then they’d go away, a new batch would come, and the festivities would start again!

If you’re not sure where to find us, just position yourself somewhere near the coast and then follow the booming music.

Oh, and here’s something that happened last year, when I ran into a old friend from church. Maybe I should have broken it to her more gently.

Working with the rough kids

This week, I took part in a program called ‘Race Around Campus’. It’s an outreach program that UWA puts on to give high schoolers a taste of what they’d be doing at university. I gave the same 20-minute mini-class over and over again for about 18 different school groups.

I got to see the contrast between different groups. Some were great. One group came into the lecture room, and they actually waited at their chairs until I realised what they were waiting for, and I said, “Please take a seat.” Which they did. But these groups weren’t just well-behaved; they were really switched on, they took an interest in the linguistics problems I was presenting, and they grasped them quite readily. Maybe they needed a little ‘entertainment’ in the teaching to keep them interested, but when they got it, they responded.

Other groups were from underpriviledged schools. Some had a teacher/student ratio of about 1 to 4. These groups had real control issues. While some groups were inattentive, some were potentially dangerous. One student started trying to punch a hole in his water bottle with his pen, and ended up injuring himself right there in class. (That was in the first ten minutes.) They had a hard time staying on task. They cracked private jokes at my expense. They talked incessantly, despite the best efforts of their teachers. It was rather dispiriting to be using my best presenting skills, and not magically captivate their interest like I normally do, but eventually I shifted my focus to simply holding their attention, and failing that, maintaining order and getting through the twenty minutes.

I had to reflect about the difference between the ‘good’ groups and the ‘more difficult’ groups. The kids in the good groups were responsive, smart, and able to take an interest in problems and solve them. The kids in the tough groups couldn’t do any of that. They probably weren’t dumb — they just didn’t see the need or take the interest. And why would they? I was presenting material that was utterly remote from their experience. They were never going to do linguistics, and they might not ever see the inside of a university building again. It wasn’t part of any framework they were used to, or one that they had ever succeeded in. It felt like my job was to attract the students that were interested, and let all the rest filter through. Which was the most I could do in twenty minutes.

I felt bad for the kids from the rough schools, and I felt worse for their teachers. But the ones I felt worst about were the students who were actually quite bright, and clearly capable of doing the work, but they were being forced to go to school every day with some unpredictable and rather frightening kids. It reminded me of everything I hated about being that age.

Collision! Aftermath

Last night saw the screening of ‘Collision‘, a combined event for the UWA Christian Union and the UWA Atheist and Agnostic Society.

Festivities actually got started earlier in the day, as Ben Rae (from the Christian Union) and I got together on RTRFM for a interview on Morning Magazine.

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It went pretty well — I only had one brain fart, which is pretty good for that time of day.

The real action happened at night, when 300 people packed the UWA Tav. Sincere apologies to everyone that had to be turned away. We had an inkling that it would be big, but in retrospect, maybe we should have hired the Octagon. Wait — no beer in the Octagon. Oh, well.

First was the film, and it was great to see Christopher Hitchens at his most fluid and incisive. Douglas Wilson was a surprisingly tenacious fighter, and some of his arguments made me think, I must confess.

Then the discussion with me and Ben. I noticed a couple of things. One, people stuck around for it and didn’t just leave after the film. That was a nice surprise. The other was how quiet the audience was. You’d think 300 tavern-goers would form a boisterous crowd, but they didn’t. It was scary-quiet. I suppose the civilised nature of the documentary set the tone. There was an exception: toward the end one biology maniac could no longer restrain himself, and began explaining to everyone loudly about mirror neurons. There’s always one. I did appreciate the assist, though.

Anyway, I think I managed to address the strengths of atheism, and Ben had a chance to get his message out, too. Overall, a very successful evening, and a fun time.

There were cameras, and we’re working on a YouTube version of the discussion. In the meantime, here is a still.

If you were there, put your impressions of the night in comments.

Newton’s flaming laser sword

Plato’s been causing trouble.

It’s that old Platonic ideal. Imagine an elephant. Not just some elephant you know (if you do know any), but the ideal prototypical elephant. Big, sort of gray, ears, legs, tail, trunk. An idea from which all other elephants deviate. That’s your Platonic elephant. Pure elephanticity.

The Platonic elephant doesn’t exist, except as an idealised abstraction in our minds. But this notion of ideal forms, of Platonism, is so pervasive that we sometimes don’t even see it. Which is why, as I say, it causes trouble.

People who aren’t good at understanding evolution are fond of repeating that there are no transitional forms. But in fact every species represents a transitional form. What we consider the species ‘elephant’ is nothing more than the set of all elephants that exist, which is different today than it was 200 years ago, which was different from 10,000 years ago. Real elephanticity keeps moving. When people think of the Platonic elephant as an immutable concept, they get tripped up.

Christian Platonism’s been dicking with my head for a long time, too. That involves the belief that a perfect version of you existed before this life (if you’re Mormon), or that your essential nature is spirit perfection, if you can keep it unspotted by the flesh. That Paul was horrified by flesh is one of the saddest contributions to Western thought, and goes a long way to explaining how fucked up Christianity is.

Avid comment readers will remember a recent Anonymous commenter (no, not Dieter Pingle) who made it clear that he (or perhaps she) wasn’t going to accept any evidence as good enough, that all evidence was equally valid (or invalid), and that the only way to go was pure reason.

Anon groused:

You put your faith in a system that “works well enough.” Mormons and other religious people do the same. You can’t come up with any real evidence to support your view and you feel that they can’t either.

Let’s ignore the fact that, since Anon didn’t accept that some evidence was better than others, I had already given her (or him) the best evidence anyone could ever provide.

What I realised from this exchange was that I had been accepting empirical evidence because it worked “well enough”, while acknowledging that it was somehow inferior to, and would take second place to, ‘pure reason’. And I had accepted this for as long as I could remember.

I have now come into contact with an article called “Newton’s Flaming Laser Sword” (PDF) by Mike Alder of our own august UWA. It’s the kind of thing everyone else probably knows already, but which I’m only now becoming aware of. (Ain’t larnin’ grand.) His argument is that ‘pure reason’ of the Platonic kind isn’t actually good for anything really, and that empiricism, such as it is, is the real driving force for knowledge.

The scientist’s perception of philosophy is that all too much of it is a variation on the above theme, that a philosophical analysis is a sterile word game played in a state of mental muddle. When you ask of a scientist if we have free will, or only think we have, he would ask in turn: ‘What measurements or observations would, in your view, settle the matter?’ If your reply is ‘Thinking deeply about it’, he will smile pityingly and pass you by. He would be unwilling to join you in playing what he sees as a rather silly game.

So far I have presented the orthodox position of scientists: truth about how the universe works cannot generally be arrived at by pure reason. The only thing reason can do is to allow us to deduce some truth from other truths. And since we haven’t got many truths to start out from, only provisional hypotheses and a necessarily finite set of observations, we cannot arrive at secure beliefs by thought alone. Most scientists are essentially Popperian positivists, they take the view that their professional life consists of finite observations, universal general hypotheses from which deductions can be made, and that it is essential to test the deductions by further observations because even though the deductions are performed by strict logic (well, mathematics usually), there is no guarantee of their correctness. The idea that one can arrive at reliable truths by pure reason is simply obsolete. Plato believed it, but Plato was wrong.

His point is that if a question can’t be settled experimentally, it’s not worth arguing about. Unless you like that sort of thing. I suppose I do like that sort of thing, so I’ll be considering that in due time. For now, I’m still getting my head around the idea of unseating Platonic ‘pure reason’ from the high seat it’s occupied for centuries, and putting empiricism in that place. I think I’ll be reading this article a few times… very slowly.

Collision! Christians and Atheists! Mass panic!

The UWA Atheist and Agnostic Society is putting on an event with the UWA Christian Union: a screening of the film ‘Collision‘ featuring Christopher Hitchens and Douglas Wilson.

And after the film, Ben Rae of the Christian Union and I will conduct a thoughtful and good-hearted discussion of issues involving faith and disbelief. We won’t even hit each other with chairs (very hard). Instead, we shall sit with our respective cups of tea and exchange views. I gotta be nice? Well, no. Like Hitchens and Wilson, we disagree on things (sometimes strongly so), but we can do so with mutual positive regard.

It’s all going down on Thursday, 5 August at the UWA Tav. You can come even if you’re not a UWA person. Tickets $5.

Obligatory Facebook event.

Atheist YouTube party

For this week’s UWA Atheist and Agnostic Society meeting, it was Atheist YouTube Party! With me as programmer. I really enjoyed the chance to share some of my faves. Here they are, as a YouTube playlist. Prepare to be offended and/or enlightened; the choice is, as always, entirely up to you.

NOTE: I think there might be a bug in the YouTube embedded playlist feature. The embedded playlist below skips the first video, which in this case was Tim Minchin’s “The Pope Song”. If you want to see it first, you can either click here to go to my blog post of a few days ago, or click here to find a working playlist on a different page.

Since I didn’t have a rock-solid net connection in the lecture room, I decided to take the precaution of downloading the videos as mp4’s using KeepVid, and then making a playlist in VLC. It made things go much more smoothly.

Talk the Talk the Talk the Talk

Has a month gone by already? I’ve got a backlog on Talk the Talk, so here’s a load of links for your enjoyment and edification.

For the first three links, I’m on about 5/6ths of the way through the stream. Watch out; it starts playing as soon as the page loads.

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23 March 2010: American English

For this episode, I report live from the USA, and fittingly I’m talking about that special dialect known as American English.


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30 March 2010: Guys

Would you call someone a ‘guy’, even if they’re a ‘gal’? What about in mixed-gender groups? A recent article in the Boston Globe is raising issues about what to call people. Is there any better way of handling this in English? And what about other languages?

This time on ‘Talk the Talk’, we return to language and gender, with a look at this most peevish of language peeves.


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6 April 2010: The Munduruku

This week on Talk the Talk, we talk about numbers. In English, we have lots of names for numbers, but the Munduruku people of the Amazon have no words for anything higher than five. Experiments show that they’re good at estimating large numbers like English speakers are, but not so good at working equations using numbers they have no words for. Is it a case of language constraining thought? Or are both being constrained by culture?


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13 April 2010: Homer-nyms

We have the Simpsons to thank for such words as “D’oh” and “embiggen”. But what else do the Simpsons have to tell us about language? On this week’s ‘Talk the Talk’, we look at neologisms and derivational morphology. But don’t worry, I do explain what all that is. I’m also pleased to say that I managed to restrain my urge to overdo the Homer impersonation.

This link seems to be different. They’ve made Talk the Talk downloadable, so now you can take it on your listening device of choice.

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That’s a lot of Talk the Talk to listen to, so don’t overdo it.

For next week’s show, we’re taking your questions, so be sure to email your language questions to talks@rtrfm.com.au, and I might pick it for next time.

UWA Atheist & Agnostic Society at O-Day

If you’re at UWA tomorrow for Orientation Day (that’s Friday, 19 Feb), why not stop by the UWA Atheist & Agnostic Society tent on the big lawn? I’ll be there signing up new members, debating any believers that feel like a challenge, and trying to drown out the horrible dance music pumped out by nearby groups at high volume the entire day. Should be a lot of fun!

UWA Atheist & Agnostic Society posters

At last, all the posters that have graced our fine campus this semester, and all in the one place. Collect the set!

Humanists, Skeptics, and Atheists: Oh my.

Richard Saunders and Rachel Dunlop gave a talk as part of Secular Week at UWA. It was great to see so many people turning up, and from so many different groups. There were lots of Humanists, some Skeptics, and plenty of Atheists.

It got me thinking: the distinction between Humanists, Skeptics, and Atheists seems to be an age thing. The humanists (identified by a show of hands) were overwhelmingly older; about 60-something. How cool that must have been, being in the old guard and seeing the growth of rationalism now. The atheists were quite a bit younger, probably 20-somethings. (I’m an outlier.) The skeptics I’m not sure about, but they seemed half-way between.

It seems to me that all these groups are saying mostly the same things, but which one you are depends a lot on what was going on when you became a rationalist. Humanism seems to have a philosophical bent to it that matches with what was going on in the 50’s and 60’s. Skeptics seem to focus specifically on the debunking of dowsing, UFOs, and crystals, things people were talking about in the 70’s and 80’s. And the youth of the atheists seems to match the youth of this New Atheist movement in the 90’s and 00’s.

Does that seem about right to anyone else?

Oh, and if you’re a Freethinker, you’re just really friggin’ old. The only way you could be older is if you’re a Deist, but we don’t see too many of them anymore.

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